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Originally Posted by aceventura3
You say #1 as if I don't live in the "real world", which is somewhat insulting.
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Read it again. You aren't the subject of point #1; you aren't even the object.
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On #2, and I know the problem with the lack of precision in the definition of certain words, like "understanding" - but a person may understand how a bumble bee can fly, but not really understand it.
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So you understand my view but don't understand how it works? It just works?
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I understand your words, I understand your intent but I do not understand why you think the way you do by making what is simple more complicated than it needs to be. From my point of view you never break an issue down to its most simple common denominator.
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That may be because the world doesn't work all in common denominators, and metaphors demonstrating this only cloud the issue. How about talking more about the issue? Point out some of my points that you get caught up on and I will try breaking them down further. I'm more than willing to do this. I even insist on it.
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Perhaps you mean this to be condescending, I am not sure. Or, perhaps this means that you can not see the broader points in my examples, I am not sure. I normally with you assume the latter.
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No, I merely suggest that your broader points miss the mark and I'm willing to demonstrate how you can simplify something and still make sense, rather than tell a tenuously allegorical story.
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My wife has choice. My buy-in has consequence, but in her decision making process those consequence may or may not be important enough to sway her decision. It is my hope that she has concerns for my buy-in, but because she is a free independent person she makes her own decisions. The same is true for me with her. So, to say I am inflexible is not accurate. Again, I don't compromise on us having a cat - I support "us" having a cat. The cat is 100% part of our household. After going through our give and take, I am 100% on-board with the cat in our house. But, to add to you confusion, because I doubt you understand, I am not a cat person - I will never be a cat person.
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So what's wrong with the Republicans? Why are they so unwilling to have a cat around?
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If the left took time to understand the issue - the difference is in the level of trust. I simply do not believe the people in Washington today are serious about spending cuts. I believe that if they raise taxes, spending with still go up. That is my primary concern on the tax question in this debate - it boils down to the simple issue of trust - or as Roach would say it is a "religious" type issue - 100% emotion based. I tell you that, I have told you that, yet it is ignored. If I knew your issue with me was trust, the first think I do is address that. Real world stuff. Pretty simple stuff. It is how stuff gets done. Put issues on the table and work through them! Obama failed.
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Are you suggesting that the Republicans will only trust their own plan? Or that Obama needs to simply talk at them more until they have some comfort in his words?