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Originally Posted by dc_dux
I'm not going to get into another gun control debate. Its pointless.
Not all ATF agents agree with you, but evidently only the ones that toe the NRA line are credible?
You evidently want to assign blame, call it part of a conspiracy to disarm law abiding citizens, but not address the problem in a comprehensive manner....and more agents and civilians will die as a result.
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you obviously are assuming facts not in evidence. I have to ask though, what problem needs to be addressed when straw buying is being encouraged by the very agency meant to stop it?
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Operation Gunrunner began in 06 under Bush. Operation Fast and Furious, a sub-component, began in Sept 09, six months after Holder's speech.
And the ARRA funds were clearly allocated to establish four new field offices in CA and TX, along with more personnel for the US embassy in Mexico -- not for the Fast and Furious operation in Ariz.
http://www.justice.gov/archive/recov...009.pdf#page=3
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stretching it is using the agency website that's being investigated to prove your point.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
My understanding of the Arms Export Control Act is that it addresses arms sales to governments and restrictions on arms dealers on sale of specific technologies. Straw purchases of commonly held weapons by individuals (for other individuals) are not addressed and would not violate the act.
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the act requires licenses for any export NOT related to government use.
It authorizes the President to define defense articles and regulate their export. In so doing, he must consider the possibility that export could "support international terrorism, increase the possibility of outbreak or escalation of conflict..."
Those defense articles may not be exported without a permit, issued by the Secretary of State ( Department of State guidelines here), "except that no license shall be required for exports or imports made by or for an agency of the United States Government
(A) for official use by a department or agency of the United States Government, or
(B) for carrying out any foreign assistance or sales program authorized by law and subject to the control of the President by other means."
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