I'm not going to get into another gun control debate. Its pointless.
Not all ATF agents agree with you, but evidently only the ones that toe the NRA line are credible?
You evidently want to assign blame, call it part of a conspiracy to disarm law abiding citizens, but not address the problem in a comprehensive manner....and more agents and civilians will die as a result.
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stricter laws are not needed. There are already too many laws. guns crossing the border violate the arms export control act.
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My understanding of the Arms Export Control Act is that it addresses arms sales to foreign governments and restrictions on arms dealers on the sale of specific technologies. Straw purchases of commonly held weapons by individuals (for other individuals) are not addressed and would not violate the act.
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that speech was not 6 months before F&F, since F&F was started under bush before Obama took office. Now, if Holder approved ATF agents to walk guns across the border and stimulus money was used for that purpose, now we have a problem.
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Operation Gunrunner began in 06 under Bush. Operation Fast and Furious, a sub-component, began in Sept 09, six months after Holder's speech.
And the ARRA funds were clearly allocated to establish four new field offices in CA and TX, along with more personnel for the US embassy in Mexico -- not for the Fast and Furious operation in Ariz.
http://www.justice.gov/archive/recov...009.pdf#page=3
You guys are really stretching it now.