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Originally Posted by thirtiesgirl
From reading some of the guys' responses in this thread, it's apparent that there still is no safe place online, except maybe a sexual assault and rape survivors' forum, for women to assert themselves and tell men to leave us alone if we don't want to be approached.
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Or maybe the Ladies Lounge that was mentioned? I know exactly what you mean about safe places to discuss things. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a place that I can trust where I can discuss my own issues.
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Noodle whines that "it's not all about you" (i.e., women). But that's the point: it is. When you approach a woman and she tells you to get lost or doesn't respond to you, her reasons for doing so are all about her, not you. Maybe she was the victim of a sexual assault. Maybe she has other things on her mind and is too busy to pay attention to some dude who just wants a little attention. You have no way of knowing. So instead of assuming that women think you're a "walking cock," that you're an "automatic predator," that you plan to "ram [us] deep and hard while [we] shriek in horror," stop thinking about yourselves for half a minute and realize that there may be other reasons she doesn't want to talk to you.
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You don't get it. The point isn't whether we understand that a woman may or may not want to interact. We get that. The point is that it was implied that "men just don't get that there are reasons why doesn't want to talk to you" and that "all men want to do is fuck." We're not all uncivilized animals. Most of us aren't. That's the point.
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Respect those reasons, whatever they may be, and leave her the hell alone. If she doesn't want to talk to you, quit insisting "but I'm really a nice guy, I just want to talk to you," and walk away. Again, aren't we allowed to be female in public or on social networking sites without guys believing they have a right to get in our space?
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I have no idea what you're talking about here. You seem to be simply projecting specific situations of one source or another. Again, the problem is that you're assuming men don't (or can't) get this or don't—
gasp!—completely support this idea without your even having to bring it up.
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It saddens me that we still can't assert our right to be left alone and have this conversation online without guys whining that it's "misandry," that we "automatically assume all men are sexual predators," ad infinitum. It doesn't make me feel very comfortable or very much like participating in places like this, and makes me wonder why I continue to try.
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Again, you don't get it. We're not against the asserting of women's right to be left alone. That's not even the topic of this thread.
If you're uncomfortable in participating here because of what you say, it's not because of any unfairness or wrongdoing. It seems to me it's because of a misunderstanding.
If we can't "whine" about misandry, then why do you feel entitled to "whine" about misogyny? What ever happened to the idea of equality? Or are you saying I'm wrong about the misandry? Is there misandry in this thread or not?