Originally Posted by roachboy

there's nothing serious about this without military spending on the table.
there's nothing serious about all this blah blah blah spending bad business with afghanistan and iraq still happening and their cost largely off the books.
there's nothing serious about this without some attempt to dismantle the lunatic "war on terror" and do something about the grotesque levels of largely unaccounted-for spending on expanding the american surveillance sector.

there is, in fact, nothing serious about this debt cieling nonsense at all.