Poetry, you're
so deeply submersed in the sex thing (you talk about sex like I talk about firearms) that you fail to recognize the importance of the "average female consumer" here in this discussion. This thread isn't a personal attack on you or talking about how horrible it is that women enjoy hardcore sex (those fiends!). I was under the impression that this is a discussion about the current status of hardcore porn as it applies to all women, not the insatiable sex machine called
Poetry from TFP. I guess my initial point is that this was more of an academic exercise and not group therapy.
You've been on porn shoots, you've screwed/been in love with porn directors; of course you're not objective. You're not the social norm. BFD.
It isn't sexist to say that "most women" prefer "less hardcore" porn if it is an actual statistic or reflects a sentiment revealed through some type of formal research. "Men don't like pink T-shirts" is an obvious example of this. I've seen plenty of dudes in pink t-shirts, but the vast majority of men, ages 18-65, probably don't own a pink shirt. While you're over there buzzing the bean with the old Clit-tachi and cramming your holes like you'd club a baby seal for another, I reckon "most women" would wonder what the hell is going on with all the freaky-freaky. I know that as a guy that has followed the modern hardcore porn sex formula for well over a decade (oh, the brainwashing!) I would find it a little odd, too. I've come to the conclusion that sex isn't about wild this and hardcore that for "most people," it's about a connection between one person and another. Hallmark-y, yeah... but generally true for people in relationships. While "most guys" might love that their girl does
X kink, only the shitheads focus on the kink itself instead of the person. I mean, I didn't love my exwife because she did
X kink, but because we both enjoyed and shared those things together. I guess my point here is that if you're focusing on how awesome it is to take a load to the face or get plowed in the ass, you're missing the fucking point.
*rimshot*
I guess my point here is that sex shouldn't be masturbating using another person's body unless its strictly masturbation (hence porn).
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Originally Posted by Poetry
It isn't the act that causes degradation, it is the hand-me-down viewpoint that we keep alive that causes it.
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Is it, now? That's funny. I didn't get a lick of hand-me-down viewpoint from anybody. Sex, for someone of my age / race / socioeconomic status, is one of those "be safe" things that nobody really explains. They say "use a condom" but don't tell you what holes. That kinda thing. Kids used to learn from Hustler magazine. Kids today learn about sex from the Web. At no point did anybody tell me that I shouldn't fishhook my girlfriend while hitting it doggy style and repeatedly calling her a whore in Hebrew. So, yeah, I think if your elders are telling you not to engage in sodomy, they're going way too deep.
*rimshot* If I feel like I'm degrading a woman with something I've received no instructions on... oh, blast! It's those damn social norms, again!
/cue up Gucci and the infamous "They say they love me, so why won't they let me poop on them?" thread