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Old 07-01-2011, 04:19 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aceventura3 View Post
On these points my position is clear also. I advocate for a true free market approach or a singular centralized approach - to me the problem is with the murkiness created by hybrid systems. The most nuance from me would be a government system of something like education or health-care that provides for a minimum guaranteed amount or service for all, with individuals given the option to enhance the services in a free market private "supplemental" market.
We already covered this. You'd rather a pure socialist or libertarian approach. I'd rather a more balanced approach. As an example, Canada's is working rather famously. And as far as Germany is concerned, if you've taken a look lately, they aren't doing so bad either.

We don't know the effects of a true free-market approach because it is merely theoretical. Any attempts at finding out would be highly experimental.

People should be focused on solving problems instead.

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I clearly don't agree. Government can be more efficient than the private sector in some regards.
I will reiterate that it isn't merely about efficiency.

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Not the issue in question. The issue in the OP was related to wealthy people wanting to increase tax rates, not "privatizing the shit out of the nation". I simple questioned their motives - my belief is that their agenda is not in the best interest of the German people. Is that what you disagree with? When billionaires and millionaires start talking about voluntarily paying more taxes, my BS detector goes off.
I was speaking mainly to your implications that the private sector is the better way and that government tends to be a poor choice for getting things done. Without actually addressing specific issues, it's difficult to argue either way.

But shifting back to the OP: These wealthy Germans want to boost tax revenues via wealthy Germans to help pay for shortfalls in government spending to help bring the country out of a recession. The reason for doing so is for the benefit of the nation as a whole.

Okay, your BS detector is going off because they suggest that wealthy people (themselves included) should be paying more taxes. Why? Can you at least speculate on some other motive?
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