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It is you and others that confuses the issue. You bring morality into the question, I don't. When I use the term "wrong", to me it is like an answer to a math question, not a morality question. You Roach and others have some weird way of suggesting that if a person does not support tax payments or increases that person does not care about other people. That premise is wrong.
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That's not what I'm saying. Go back to my last post. I suggested that the market is amoral and that voters are moral. I didn't say anything about the tax-adverse being people-adverse. You yet again confuse the issue, and I find your pinning it on me and others in this thread to be both insulting and ridiculous.
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In fact, based on my arguments, I could argue that the morality of using government to help others is wrong. I don't do that nor have I done that. Again, we fail to communicate put in simple terms because of my digital outlook and your analog outlook.
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I think you mean your binary outlook and my comprehensive outlook.
You're a quasi-libertarian monetarist who distrusts government beyond roads, cops, and soldiers. I get it. I just wish you'd not imply what's not there and weasel your way around arguments counter to yours. It's bad enough that you won't even agree with fundamental economic knowledge.
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Go back to the original posts. There are wealthy Germans who want government to do what they could be doing. I asked the question, why. My conclusion on that question is clear to me - I have yet to understand your thoughts on that question. That is the connection with everything I have posted in this thread, perhaps re-reading the thread may help you.
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Maybe you should practice what you preach, ace.
Let me help you:
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru at the top of the thread
You've brought this up before in other threads, ace.
The group of rich Germans pushing for this wealth tax numbers about 44. According to the man behind the petition, there are "2.2 million people in Germany with a fortune of more than 500,000 euros." Even after a little quick math, this suggests that there are more than 2 million wealthy Germans who may or may not agree (or even know about) this wealth tax proposal.
A group of 44 wealthy Germans writing cheques to the government may not have the same impact as 2.2 million wealthy Germans being taxed 5% over two years to raise £91 billion.
Dividing £91 billion between 2.2 million people vs. 44 is more manageable, no?
That's why they simply don't write a cheque to the government. I'm not sure how keen (or capable) these people are about writing individual cheques for over £2 billion each. That'd be like writing a cheque for about $3 billion U.S.
The wealthiest of the wealthy Germans could probably do this, but it's not like that's the goal of the petition. I'm not sure what Dieter Lehmkuhl is worth, but he can't write a cheque for £91 billion. Not even Warren Buffett can do that. I'm not sure Lehmkuhl can even write one for £2 billion.
Regardless, this isn't about charity.
Try to keep everything under consideration.
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Now here's another chance for you to ask any questions or for clarifications of my position if you don't understand something.
I won't hold my breath. You're a quasi-libertarian monetarist. You disagree with me. Fine. Disagree with me. Please...just don't make me walk the labyrinth again.