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Old 06-04-2011, 10:12 PM   #40 (permalink)
pan6467
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I think the earth's climate changes. I believe the earth's climate has changed in the past.
It does and has hence the Ice Age. The planet is wobbling, What causes it too wobble? Too many people? That is laughable.


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I believe the earth's climate will change in the future.
It will and it will again.

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I think there is more to learn about the earth's climate than the sum total of what we know now.
I agree. We tend to wabt to believe we can predict global warming, there is no God, that the world should be a utopia. It's NEVER been that way and NEVER will be. Egypt and North Africa went from tropical forests to deserts. Did man cause that? I don't think so. Someone prove me, without ANY doubt, that I am wrong, it's impossible, but I am open minded. Show me facts.

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I think the earth's climate is self correcting, meaning I do not believe there is a "point of no return".
I tend to agree, I don't think WE can do anything, good or bad to prevent NATURAL shifts in the climates.

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I believe humans, since the industrial era have had a negative impact on the earth's environment and we should incrementally do what is reasonable to minimize our future impact on the earth's environment.
I was around back in the day and still hear stories of how Akron and its 'burbs would have black ash filling the sky, from the tire plants. The Cuyahoga River caught fire in Cleveland. THAT was man made. But to not believe the volcanoes that push out more ash in one eruption than those plants did in the time they were operating, aren't or weren't just as "bad" for the environment is ludicrous.

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I believe in my lifetime we have become much better stewards of the planet and I expect the improvements to continue.
We have, at least in the USA, which is why we have shipped jobs overseas, less regulation. They can be as filthy and dump whatever they want into water and the lands and pay less if anything.

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I believe in evolution, in particular survival of the fittest. I believe animals and plants that fail to adapt to changing conditions are destine to become extinct.
Now, this I do disagree with. I can grasp and accept evolution to a degree, because who is to say that 24 hours is a day to (dare I say this without someone ripping me for saying His name) God, A day could be centuries, millenia, whatever, so you can have evolution and devine creation at the same time. It is egotistical and self righteous of mankind to think we have all the answers.

I think animals like racoons tend to prove that either they adapt or die as a species. BUT we shouldn't actively go killing off a species because we want their land. Ever step on an ant or watch a fly in a spider's web? Whether you want to call it impulse or whatever, those creatures fight to live. Life is a splendid thing, which I have come to grasp after my health issues. (sorry, got sidetracked.) That splendor of life is not just for humans to experience but for all creatures. Even the Bible, whether you believe or not talks about preventing extinction (Noah's Ark). Man didn't kill off the dinosaurs or the wooly mammoths, they could not adjust to natural climate change.

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Tell me what you believe
I think I just tried to.

But Carlin says it much better:


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