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Old 05-31-2011, 01:36 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
I'll tell you what I don't believe. I don't believe in destiny. I also don't believe we should rely on the earth to self-correct on its own, especially if we're its stewards in any capacity.
I don't think we should "rely" on the earth to self-correct either. I never stated that, I think we (humans) need to be good stewards of this planet and minimize our negative affects on the earth.

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If things go severely wrong, there is no plan B. There is no escape route.
I don't buy into doom and gloom. I think if conditions change on earth, there will be some areas the benefit at the cost of other areas. Again, I don't think we fully understand the real dynamics of this planet. I also do not under-estimate the ingenuity of the human race. We can adapt. Perhaps cities actually below sea level currently should not have dense populations. I think it is foolish to try to manage water levels in a city like New Orleans. No matter what we do, that city will always have a higher than acceptable risk of flooding.

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The earth will likely be here long after we're gone. Self-correcting.
I am guessing you don't get the full nature of what I describe as self-correcting.

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Originally Posted by Mantus View Post
Ace,

I think I summed it up better. You think global warming is BS. That's fine. I'm not really here to educate you but since you asked,



This: Direct Observations of Recent Climate Change - AR4 WGI Summary for Policymakers
When I think something is b.s. I have no problem saying so. When you say "global warming", I am assuming you mean that humans are the direct cause. I don't think we know enough about our climate to come to that conclusion, although it may be correct. CO2 levels on this planet have been higher than they are now and I doubt measuring climate cycles on this planet in a few decades compared to hundreds of thousands or millions of years is good science.

Perhaps, I have one of those nuanced positions. Who would have thought me, a conservative could be nuanced. Go figure.

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We have less than 200 years of data, the earth is about 4.5 billion years old. you do realize that is like 1.5 seconds in a full 365 day year.

From your link:

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