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RogueGypsy · 05-30-2011, 08:06 PM

Cut the guy a little slack, he didn't build the deck. The fuck wad that built it is the one you should be verbally slapping. The asshat that used railroad spikes, no cross bracing, no knee braces and by the span at least one too few 4x4 posts, is who's work failed.

Yes, he should have inspected or had a pro inspect the deck before resurfacing it.
Yes, there absolutely should have been a guard rail in place.
Yes, the decking should have been 5/4"+.
etc................

But what he did, although incorrect did not fail. It was a preexisting condition which absolutely should be covered by whoever insures the home. The insurer should have caught this long before it failed and at the very least informed the owner it was structurally unsound AND removed the deck. Structural issues are not something an insurer should be over looking.

And nothing against JTKirk personally or professionally, but show me anything structural that translates exactly from paper to real-world and I'll bow down a kiss your greasy balls. I've spent nearly 40 years around and working in, industries translating engineering dreams to real world product. Everything from Dam, pipeline and Highway construction to housing, as well as, electronics and electrical application. I do not recall seeing a single print in all those years that did not have field revisions before completion of the project. So, yeah, prints are the vision, but it takes a skilled builder to translate them to a working model. Now don't get me wrong, for all the headaches and hemorrhoids engineers cause us as builders. Without them our world would be a very ugly and dangerous place. But going from paper to structure is not a direct translation. Ever.

Engineers are not Gods, they're mathematical artists.

Nice avatar BTW- Trailer Park Boys is hilarious.

05-30-2011, 08:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
RogueGypsy Insane Location: The Great NorthWet	Cut the guy a little slack, he didn't build the deck. The fuck wad that built it is the one you should be verbally slapping. The asshat that used railroad spikes, no cross bracing, no knee braces and by the span at least one too few 4x4 posts, is who's work failed. Yes, he should have inspected or had a pro inspect the deck before resurfacing it. Yes, there absolutely should have been a guard rail in place. Yes, the decking should have been 5/4"+. etc................ But what he did, although incorrect did not fail. It was a preexisting condition which absolutely should be covered by whoever insures the home. The insurer should have caught this long before it failed and at the very least informed the owner it was structurally unsound AND removed the deck. Structural issues are not something an insurer should be over looking. And nothing against JTKirk personally or professionally, but show me anything structural that translates exactly from paper to real-world and I'll bow down a kiss your greasy balls. I've spent nearly 40 years around and working in, industries translating engineering dreams to real world product. Everything from Dam, pipeline and Highway construction to housing, as well as, electronics and electrical application. I do not recall seeing a single print in all those years that did not have field revisions before completion of the project. So, yeah, prints are the vision, but it takes a skilled builder to translate them to a working model. Now don't get me wrong, for all the headaches and hemorrhoids engineers cause us as builders. Without them our world would be a very ugly and dangerous place. But going from paper to structure is not a direct translation. Ever. Engineers are not Gods, they're mathematical artists. Nice avatar BTW- Trailer Park Boys is hilarious. __________________ Methods, application and intensity of application vary by the individual. All legal wavers must be signed before 'treatment' begins. Self 'Medicating' is not recommend. However, if necessary, it is best to have an 'assistant' or 'soft landing zone' nearby. Any and all legal issues resulting from improperly applied techniques should be forwarded to: Dewy, Cheatum & Howe, Intercourse, PA 17534. Attn: Anonymous. Last edited by RogueGypsy; 05-30-2011 at 08:09 PM..