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Old 05-13-2011, 03:49 PM   #217 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
First, I don't think Obama and I share a similar worldview. From what I can tell, we deviate quite a bit. I think we would disagree on a lot of things. I disagree with several of his positions and decisions as president.

Second, I don't deny my bias. But this isn't about me; it's about you. I understand you have a bias. I also understand that you've, again, made a wider issue about you.

Third, it isn't about titles or positions. It's about the data and the method of which it was gathered and processed. If Obama had a Ph.D. and told me that he talks to a lot of young black men in several pockets of the country and finds that liberals are brainwashing them, I'd still be suspicious. So, no, I wouldn't sign a higher level of credibility to the data.

It shouldn't be all that surprising. It's not about you or Obama.
I started this with simply pointing out a problem in urban centers in this country, the cause and solution from my point of view. My credibility was immediately questioned and I responded.

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I don't disagree with it, though it hasn't been brought up until now. If you recall, what I disagree with is your suggestion that "liberals" are brainwashing all the young black men in America to not want jobs. I'm willing to believe it, but you aren't very convincing.
Early on I suggested that you do your own homework, if interested, on this subject. I know i can not convince you, at one point I accepted that you did not understand what I was presenting and was willing to leave it at that.


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ace, I'm disappointed. Do you even remember what we're talking about?
Very much so. As this relates to the GOP "shifting" strategy, I repeat a point I made earlier, if we are all the same, i.e. racist, deny children education, want women to get back alley abortions, want granny to die, etc, etc. - there is absolutely no reason to compromise or work with liberals. It is pure folly to enter into any attempt to work with liberals to solve problems - as is evidenced in this thread (again nothing personal) - conservatives need to sweep the WH and Congress in order to solve problems. And I fully expect they will.
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