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Originally Posted by aceventura3
No, I don't understand. People in power form their views and opinions no different than how I form mine. However, if a person like Obama, describes a problem and offers a solution, your response is different - I offer it is because his world view is similar to yours. I admit when I have a bias, do you? For example if I told you I was a PHd., and offered the same information, would you immediately assign a higher level of credibility to it? I think you would.
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First, I don't think Obama and I share a similar worldview. From what I can tell, we deviate quite a bit. I think we would disagree on a lot of things. I disagree with several of his positions and decisions as president.
Second, I don't deny my bias. But this isn't about me; it's about you. I understand you have a bias. I also understand that you've, again, made a wider issue about you.
Third, it isn't about titles or positions. It's about the data and the method of which it was gathered and processed. If Obama had a Ph.D. and told me that he talks to a lot of young black men in several pockets of the country and finds that liberals are brainwashing them, I'd still be suspicious. So, no, I wouldn't sign a higher level of credibility to the data.
It shouldn't be all that surprising. It's not about you or Obama.
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There are multiple forces in play.
But first, young men are not born with negative attitudes, those attitudes are formed. If you don't agree with that premise, we will never agree on what follows from the premise.
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I don't disagree with it, though it hasn't been brought up until now. If you recall, what I disagree with is your suggestion that "liberals" are brainwashing all the young black men in America to not want jobs. I'm willing to believe it, but you aren't very convincing.
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Again, in a free market the problems would be self correcting.
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Speculative.
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Business opportunity is severely restricted in some areas, lower the restrictions and business opportunities will develop. When young men have positive experiences with legitimate businesses the impact of anti-business messages would be off-set and eventually over come.
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Non sequitur.
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When I say free markets are self correcting, when it come it race in America, we have to understand the history. Racism in America was institutionalized by government or legislation, i.e., Jim Crow laws. It was through government that segregation was enforced and without the support of government it ends (there will always be exceptions or people who are simply evil, but they will not define a society). When people are free to interact the fear of differences dissipates and people begin to focus on what they have in common.
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Non sequitur.
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It is shameful when any politician, community worker/leader plays on class/race/sex/religious/age/sexuality warfare or those those differences to solidify their support. Obama has President does this more than any President in my lifetime, and it is beneath the dignity of the office. And I suspect he underestimates the negative impact it has.
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Irrelevant.
ace, I'm disappointed. Do you even remember what we're talking about?