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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
No it's not extreme. Let's not jump to conclusions. However, I'd be interested to know what geographic region your knowledge of young black men covers. The U.S. is a big place.
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I have connections and have had extensive travels in most urban centers in the Midwest, West (excluding Oregon and Washington), South and South East. I have no connections nor have I had extensive travels to many large Northeastern urban centers, i.e. New York, Boston, Philly, etc.
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My point is that you seem to be basing your analysis of a widespread problem on a limited view. I could be wrong; it just seems that way. Would you consider your knowledge of young black men comprehensive and detailed enough to write about for publication? Do you think maybe you could help the government understand what's going on from coast to coast?
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Yes.
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I'm sure you could help your neighbourhood or maybe your city. To a degree. But I'm reluctant to form any significant opinions on the matter based on what you've observed. I hope you understand.
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No, I don't understand. People in power form their views and opinions no different than how I form mine. However, if a person like Obama, describes a problem and offers a solution, your response is different - I offer it is because his world view is similar to yours. I admit when I have a bias, do you? For example if I told you I was a PHd., and offered the same information, would you immediately assign a higher level of credibility to it? I think you would.
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Everything I learned about responsibility I learned in school and at work. I have a feeling that this is the case for many youth. Now, beyond your Big Bad Liberal conspiracy theory, what makes you suggest youth don't want to get trained and get jobs? What's the real problem?
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There are multiple forces in play.
But first, young men are not born with negative attitudes, those attitudes are formed. If you don't agree with that premise, we will never agree on what follows from the premise.
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At first you were saying it's because minimum wage is too high. Now you're saying it's because youth are being brainwashed by urban liberal overlords.
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Again, in a free market the problems would be self correcting. Business opportunity is severely restricted in some areas, lower the restrictions and business opportunities will develop. When young men have positive experiences with legitimate businesses the impact of anti-business messages would be off-set and eventually over come.
When I say free markets are self correcting, when it come it race in America, we have to understand the history. Racism in America was institutionalized by government or legislation, i.e., Jim Crow laws. It was through government that segregation was enforced and without the support of government it ends (there will always be exceptions or people who are simply evil, but they will not define a society). When people are free to interact the fear of differences dissipates and people begin to focus on what they have in common.
It is shameful when any politician, community worker/leader plays on class/race/sex/religious/age/sexuality warfare or those those differences to solidify their support. Obama has President does this more than any President in my lifetime, and it is beneath the dignity of the office. And I suspect he underestimates the negative impact it has.