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Old 05-04-2011, 10:04 AM   #121 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
You're insisting that I should first agree with you that a flat tax is fairer than a progressive tax in order to have a discussion. WTF?
Regardless of your views on a flat consumption based tax system, I first ask you to simply acknowledge the obvious weakness and unfairness in a progressive income tax system - namely wealth is not taxed and upwardly mobile people occasionally face extremely unfair marginal rates.


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But I've ask you three times now to show me a flat tax proposal that works -- that does not benefit the top taxpayers at the expense of the middle class and is also revenue neutral -- and we can discuss it.
How many times do I need to give you the same answer? When I run for political office, my flat consumption based tax proposal will be the basis of my campaign. I see no value in sharing it with you in advance. If there is some value in it, let me know - otherwise I will keep this at a theoretical level.

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You cant or you wont, and that is my shortcoming?
No. We can move on anytime.

How about additional justification for the Republican strategy to stop Obama-care from being implemented. IBD reported today that in 20 years a 42-year-old at 300% of poverty would have to shell out about 19% of their total income to buy insurance through one of the exchanges created by Obama-care.

Or, how about giving me some advise on how to play the college tuition game. It seems to me that people who plan win, those who don't lose, and that poor people who don't have help (namely first generation students) are at the mercy of chance. Does such a system make you proud to be a liberal? In my view there is a better way than just throwing more and more money into a broken system. But I guess any Republican who wants "change" doesn't really want "change" they just don't want poor people to be able to go to college - well that line is getting old. I am betting more and more people won't buy into it any longer. You will see more Republicans not caring about how liberals use labels!
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