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Originally Posted by dc_dux
So, for discussion purposes, you cant produce a flat tax proposal that would not lower the tax obligation of the top tax payers at the expense of the middle and at the same time is revenue neutral at the rate proposed.
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There is a difference between "can't" and "won't".
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Ideologues such as yourself say it can be done and we should take in on faith that it will work and be fair.
Pragmatists like me say show me the money.
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I work in steps. You seem to want to go from A to Z without what comes in between. For me, there are some basics we need to acknowledge before moving on. You won't even acknowledge the unfairness in our current tax code. You won't acknowledge that a flat consumption based tax system can be structured in different ways to accomplish different objectives. Again, generally speaking such a system could exempt people under whatever cut-off you want. For example you could cut it at $100,000 in income or consumption. The fundamental principle in my mind when thinking of fairness to poor or middle-class is to tax wealth, wealth based life-styles, exorbitance. What is the fundamental principle in your mind? Do you have one? Have you given it any thought?