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Originally Posted by KirStang
Yea...actually...if you take a look at the tons of 42 USC 1983 Federal Tort Claims Act suits brought against state actors....then, you may realize this government's rule of law is far stronger than other states.
Not to mention, other countries are fully exploiting weaker countries too. (I.e. China and Africa, and squalid working conditions, shoddy workmanship, bribery, etc.)
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Well, except for the precedent set by Obama, whereby we "look forward" instead of look into all of the possible war crimes, including illegal domestic spying and torture, committed by previous administrations.
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Originally Posted by EventHorizon
which is why it takes so long to prosecute anyone in this country right? if anything, i think that the US is overly concerned with doling out the perfect amount of justice to the point where a 10 year trial is worse than the sentence. it shouldn't be "well you broke the law.. uhmmm... 25 years!" but something closer to those lines than the current "check every book on law ever written before reaching a verdict" for the sake that making sure that the criminal can be punished with the closest approximation of justice (with actual deliberation, just not for years), in the shortest amount of time possible.
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Really? You think that a nation whose prison population is heavily weighted by people guilty of the victimless crime of drug possession is one that is overly concerned with justice?
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please go on, are you talking about equality of opportunity or equality of outcome?
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Is there anyone who actually believes that opportunity and success are doled out indiscriminately in the US? Even if the idea didn't defy decades worth of descriptive statistics, the most cursory thought experiment would reveal why the idealized notion of equality peddled in 9th grade civics textbooks is unattainable.
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isn't the US the country with (one of) the most cases of litigation in the world? if anything the rule of law in the US is sacred to all Americans if for nothing else, it gives them one more thing to sue over, but i think there's more to it that just raking in capital with lawsuits (...hopefully), people really do want justice to be done.
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See admitted crimes of previous administration.
Also, most folks support the rule of law only when it comes to laws that don't adversely affect them. I don't think you'll find much support for the rule of law on the freeway, where typical speeds routinely exceed the legal speed limit. This is a microcosm of the average person's respect for the rule of law: laws are difficult to pay attention to if they aren't displayed in front of a backdrop of significant consequences.