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Charlatan · 05-03-2011, 12:16 AM

I don't think we will see a merger on the left until at least another election. The Liberal Party is still a massive machine. Even the PC Party, down to two seats, did not give into a merger with the Reform (Alliance) Party for quite a while (and even that took treachery).

And I am not so sure I want to see a merger at this point. Canadians are a fickle bunch. This election result is really just a big: Let's see what happens. They (elections of this sort) happen from time to time, at all levels of government. If Harper turns out to be the social conservative we are afraid he will prove to be, he will get turfed in the next election (think: Mulroney).

Make no mistake, I am not happy Harper won. I think, even being conservative, this Conservative majority will be a very bad thing for Canada. If a minority has kept the worst aspects of his government in check, I can only imagine how bad this is going to get before 2015.

The big upside is the decline of the Bloc and the sovereignists. They appear to have given a nod to Federalism or at least a new way of engaging with the rest of Canada. With the Bloc no longer in possession of Official Party Status, they also lose a lot of funding and support. I will not be sad to see them go. Let's hope it's for good. (that said, I did like Ducieppe and wish he'd been a member of another party).

Ignatieff, despite losing his seat appears to want to stay on as leader. Wow. That's ballsy. I think he really needs to go. The Liberals need to spend some time in the wilderness re-building themselves. Let's face it, they've never recovered completely from Sponsorship Scandal. They need new leadership and they need to rebuild their base (or at least significantly repair it).

I am sure there will be more as the Conservatives have a long list of things they want to accomplish in their first 100 days... most of which just looks like garbage.

PS: Stephane Dion won his seat in Montreal...

PPS: How is it possible that Bev Oda can be re-elected and by such a margin... it's astounding!

PPPS: Any bets on how long until they scrap the CBC?

05-03-2011, 12:16 AM	#65 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I don't think we will see a merger on the left until at least another election. The Liberal Party is still a massive machine. Even the PC Party, down to two seats, did not give into a merger with the Reform (Alliance) Party for quite a while (and even that took treachery). And I am not so sure I want to see a merger at this point. Canadians are a fickle bunch. This election result is really just a big: Let's see what happens. They (elections of this sort) happen from time to time, at all levels of government. If Harper turns out to be the social conservative we are afraid he will prove to be, he will get turfed in the next election (think: Mulroney). Make no mistake, I am not happy Harper won. I think, even being conservative, this Conservative majority will be a very bad thing for Canada. If a minority has kept the worst aspects of his government in check, I can only imagine how bad this is going to get before 2015. The big upside is the decline of the Bloc and the sovereignists. They appear to have given a nod to Federalism or at least a new way of engaging with the rest of Canada. With the Bloc no longer in possession of Official Party Status, they also lose a lot of funding and support. I will not be sad to see them go. Let's hope it's for good. (that said, I did like Ducieppe and wish he'd been a member of another party). Ignatieff, despite losing his seat appears to want to stay on as leader. Wow. That's ballsy. I think he really needs to go. The Liberals need to spend some time in the wilderness re-building themselves. Let's face it, they've never recovered completely from Sponsorship Scandal. They need new leadership and they need to rebuild their base (or at least significantly repair it). I am sure there will be more as the Conservatives have a long list of things they want to accomplish in their first 100 days... most of which just looks like garbage. PS: Stephane Dion won his seat in Montreal... PPS: How is it possible that Bev Oda can be re-elected and by such a margin... it's astounding! PPPS: Any bets on how long until they scrap the CBC? __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke Last edited by Charlatan; 05-03-2011 at 01:16 AM..