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Originally Posted by Charlatan
Here's the real question: What does it matter if some identifies as homosexual or not? What does it matter if two people of the same sex wish to join together in a legal union?
Frankly, I don't care whether it is a choice or biology. As long as they are not harming others, what does it matter? So many people are hung up on telling people how to live their live and/or castigating them for living life as they see fit.
It's an odd take on things, in my opinion.
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I don't have a problem with people who do same-sex things, and I'm not trying to tell people how to live their lives.....I just don't see a good reason why a person would want to do same-sex things, so I'm just trying to understand it (but hey, we have the freedom to do what we want with our bodies, so who am i to stop someone from having their freedom?). It's not like I think gays are aliens from outer space or something. First and foremost we are human beings, and we should do good for ourselves and for other people.
And what kind of attitude is "if what they do doesn't hurt anyone else, then why is it a problem?" I guess you just shouldn't care about what people do to themselves as long as it's behind closed doors and doesn't affect you personally? smh.
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Originally Posted by KirStang
Problem with that argument is--what about incest and polygamy and statutory rape and drugs and all sorts of other shit that 'don't harm others.'
God dammit. I want to spend all my money on whores and drink myself to death. It should be legal. Everywhere. I'm leaving las vegas, baby.
HEY! Step away from my livelihood. I will divorce many happy couples and run off with millions. MILLIONS I SAY!
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Yes, I saw the problem with this argument as well. You can't justify same sex activity on the basis that it doesn't hurt anyone else.....come on people.
So, then, what are other ways that same-sex activity be justified? If people can find a valid reason, then same-sex union can be legalized without a second thought.
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Originally Posted by Charlatan
You have no idea.
Wikipedia: Section 377A of the Penal Code (Singapore) criminalizes "gross indecency" between men which includes consensual, private, adult homosexual acts. The penalty is up to two years' imprisonment.
There was a debate in parliament a few years ago where Section 377A was openly discussed and it was decided that the section would remain in place but would not be enforced.
Regardless, living here, in particular reference to this issue can be likened to living in Canada during the 1970s. Ignorance with a mix of juvenile humour. It's not pretty.
And KirStang, you are right. It's not a great counter-argument. Rather it was me throwing my hands in the air (like I just don't care).
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I don't see how it is logical to throw people in jail or physically abuse someone just because they partake in same-sex activity.....especially since imprisonment seems like it would lead to more homosexual acts, and abuse (rather than discipline) from authorities against gays is just fighting misconduct with misconduct. Trying to get justice/morality by means of injustice/immorality is not right.