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Originally Posted by Willravel
Science isn't guesswork, it's the most successful system in determining objective reality. It's infinitely more successful than religion in treating people with injuries and illnesses. Science is the absolute best tool we have available for treating ill children, regardless of your religious beliefs.
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How did we figure out that cranial trepanation isn't the best way to treat mental illness? Why do opiates like laudanum now require prescriptions? Here's some fun reading for you:
MedWatch Safety Alerts for Human Medical Products
A huge number of people are regularly affected by bad medicine. Whether it's instinct, religion, or a wild assed guess, it's a parent's right to veto.
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Originally Posted by Willravel
It's taken a series not of tragedies, but breakthroughs to get where we are today with medical knowledge.
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Interestingly medical malpractice revolves around "accepted standards," not actual harm or damage. Collective behavior dissolves individual responsibility. Many of those breakthroughs were someone pointing out how bad everyone else was messing up.
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Originally Posted by Willravel
Let's say that I have a son. I take him out behind the house and shoot him in the head. I shouldn't be charged with murder because I'm responsible for the well being of my son, not the government? Are you sure that logic holds up?
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Way to take a statement out of context. Ventilating your kid's melon isn't going to prevent autism. There are many people who have experienced success with nontraditional remedies, and parents should have the legal ability to seek whichever treatment they choose. They're not just babysitting the government's kids who can whisk them away at the first sign of non-mainstream behavior.
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Originally Posted by Willravel
She and her army of morons set us back set us back decades because they were too stupid to realize that they don't in fact know more about medicine than experts.
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For your info I think medicine has things right most of the time. The problem
is that doctors have been wrong, and will continue to be wrong. There are individual cutting off the wrong leg screwups, and widespread going along with the crowd whoopsie daisy's. Medical convention shifts, twists and completely changes direction from time to time. More importantly, a doctor is a service provider, the patient is the customer.
And which judge is qualified enough to decide which treatment is best for the human body? The legal system is based on law, it knows little of medicine.
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Originally Posted by Willravel
If my son or daughter were in serious medical danger, I'd have the humility to trust people who know far more than I do about medicine.
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Legally forcing a man of faith to recieve treatment from a secular doctor is no different than legally forcing a man of science to recieve faith based medical treatment.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
non sequitor
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A minimalist government similar to the one we had in our nation's childhood wouldn't require record-setting national debt to sustain.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
methodologically there's no transparency at all with a strict construction viewpoint. because the interpretations are arbitrary--and necessarily so--because they're predicated on some fiction of "original intent".
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You're making some pretty broad generalizations.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
even if ultra-rightwing militia types dont like the current precedent-based legal system that the constitution they claim to defend put into motion...
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What kind of ultra rightwing are we talking about here? The far left has a different view on "ultra right" than the far right.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
black robed tyrants
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I wouldn't go that far.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Or that we'll go ahead and forge out exceptions to the bill of rights, specifically the 4th Amendment, by stating that YES, DUI checkpoints are indeed violations of the 4th Amendment, but I, as a supreme court justice, feel that drunk driving is such a HUGE problem, that we'll overlook unreasonable search and seizure requirements for this problem.....until the next one comes along. This attitude of 'stare decisis', combined with the liberal position of a living document theory, places YOUR inalienable rights in the hands of 9 people and allows them to determine whether or not your rights can be violated for their own ideology.
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It's also obvious in recent rulings that different weights are assigned to different amendments based on nothing more than emotion. The 1st, 3rd and 5th are read much more literally than the 2nd (GCA '68) and 4th (DUI checkpoints, TSA, expansion of Terry stops), the 9th is all but ignored (driver's licenses and "driving a car is not a right" etc.), and the 10th is patted on the head and sent out to play with the other children by countless federal laws and agencies.
It's not well publicized, but the state's rights movement is gaining certain momentum. Several have passed or almost passed laws that fly in the face of the current federal government norms. Several have drawn clear lines in the sand that haven't been crossed yet, Montana even threatened to secede. The health insurance lawsuits are worth following as well.
State governments baiting the federal government into another civil war have me much more concerned than the spectrum of loonies who're pissed about their personal hot topics.