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Old 04-22-2011, 02:03 PM   #61 (permalink)
The_Jazz
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous View Post
Ukraine is still a part of the Russian sphere of influence.

It is independent in the same way Hawaii is independent of America

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The answer to the original question is (imo) the US could not have won a conventional victory over Russia in terms of an invasion. The rest of the world would have declared war on the US if they had done it. The US would never have done such a thing. There is a lot of anti American feeling these days, but America's conduct in WWII was honourable. It is very disrespectul to those Americans who died in a European war they could have easily stood back from to start talking abiut stupid scernarios like this.

Yes, there was tension in the Cold War and a lot of rubbish spoken on both sides, but to compare this economic and political competotion to the Nazi philosphy in unbelieavbaly offensive to me..
Uh, SF, Hawaii is a State. Like California or New York. Maybe Ukraine is like Canada, but the Ukraine is not to Russia as Wales is to the UK. The Ukrainians are definitely dependent on Russia and take Russian concerns very seriously, but until 2008, Russia wasn't going to even contribute to the Chernobyl clean-up effort. You've made glaringly inaccurate analogy there.

As for the OP, the UK suggested fighting the Soviets several times. Churchill is on record as having discussed it personally with Roosevelt. The French might or might not have gone along, but there was no one else in the world to declare war on the US if they'd gone to war against the Soviets. The Spanish were still recovering from their civil war (and wouldn't have been a big factor regardless), the Italians were out, the Turks had no interest, the Chinese were busy throwing the Japanese out and fighting amongst themselves, the Indians were part of the UK, and the South American countries couldn't have fielded a fighting force, let alone a navy to get them there. So who, exactly, was left to declare war against the US?
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