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Originally Posted by filtherton
I'm still baffled by the notion that the founding fathers' input is at all relevant to anything. If an idea can't be supported without relying heavily on selective interpretation of the words of someone who has been dead for centuries, then perhaps the idea isn't all that compelling.
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I would be uncomfortable living under the tyranny of the dead. It would be odd for Canadians to suggest thinking about what the Fathers of Confederation intended for the country, or even Pierre Trudeau with regard to the Constitution of Canada. We should probably leave that to Canadian constitutional law instead of speculation.
I'm pretty sure they wrote these documents so that we wouldn't have to speculate that way.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
cruel and unusual punishment happens EVERY SINGLE DAY! This is why your argument fails.
inalienable rights are absolute. that doesn't mean that the government won't infringe on them or revoke them unconstitutionally and still be either exonerated or rewarded for it.
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Where is it written as law that cruel and unusual punishment is just? Does America have such laws (besides the death penalty)?