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Old 04-22-2011, 08:17 AM   #314 (permalink)
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A better question would be, would the founders be OK with a full restoration of rights upon walking out the doors of a prison?
I don't want to remain off the path for too long. The core question, I believe, is whether rights are absolute given that there are limitations in exercising them. Sure, you can say you have the right of free speech and can say anything you goddamn well want, but the fact remains that there are laws in place that prevent you from communicating certain information. Tell me, if Manning has such an inalienable right to free speech, why isn't he being released without charges? Or would you say he does have the right but still has to pay the consequences? Either way, his right doesn't seem very absolute to me. Can someone please explain to me why that is?

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Not even self defense? Or are you referring to the government & death penalty here?
Not even in self-defense. However, I was referring to the death penalty, but in my view it applies to all circumstances.

I think taking one's life even in the most extreme of self-defense circumstances still has attached to it moral repercussions, if not a legal ones. But I don't want to stray from the topic.

I believe that no government has the moral authority to take the life of a citizen under the purview of justice.
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