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Most people who are rude choose to be rude. Somewhere, there is a big black hole that manners are sucked into. How bad manners relate to pro - torture I do not know. Is torture bad manners? No. Its torture. Arm waving ranting as descibed by one poster just reminds me of Jerry Adams and the fact that he spat when he ranted - spittle flecked lips. Ranting doesnt work. Smile. Charley says....
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