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Originally Posted by silent_jay
That has what to do with the cars GM makes? Remember ace, you said:
So if you're comparing BMW to GM, I suggest you don't go down the automobile route, because they are nothing alike at all, or if this mentioning BMW is another ace smoke-screen for something else, well.......
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I think GM is beholden to government while BMW has more freedom to respond to the market.
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How many people would be out of work if GM failed ace? How many people if Tesla failed? About 899 as of December 2010. So there's your answer ace, now that is something simple to see.
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My point is that if GM failed there would be a shift in net employment from one employer to others. If there is a resulting net reduction in employment it would be because other may be more efficient than GM and as a result the would be good for consumers.
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Originally Posted by Willravel
You're not addressing the point. While Democrats do represent corporate interests often, they do not do so anywhere near as often or as consistently as the GOP. That's my assertion and I can gladly back it up.
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I am not going to argue if Republicans score 80.0 compared to Democrats scoring 79.9.
But, before we continue ( and I am more than willing), on the issue of GE. I think GE being a profitable company paying no taxes is a travesty of corporate tax justice and fairness. This makes me mad, it makes me want to change the system - I want fairness. I laid out suggestions - lower the corporate tax rate (or take it to zero) and get rid of all the subsidies, credits, loop-holes and favorable treatment from government and level the playing field. You seem to be very passive about this, and it is clear that raising the rate won't make a difference. Obama, members of Congress, you or anyone can give a clear and concise explanation of how GE got away with this - sure people will say tax credits, etc., but that is superficial. It would take hundreds of pages of text in small print to see the complete picture - it is a joke.
Tea Party people fight against these kinds of travesties, are you with us or not? Honest people can disagree on how to fix the problem, but the Tea Party is the only group that is having the discussion! To that you say what? The generic response of Tea Party people are "crazies" or only care about the rich is no longer enough.
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Originally Posted by Derwood
Yep, it's all going according to the script. The GOP doesn't allow chaos. Everything is planned
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Rove is a power broker or as Palin would say a party "blue blood". Yes, Rove has a plan, but non-blue bloods in the party have a different plan. This is a battle within the party - the winner will determine the final plan.