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Old 04-17-2011, 04:17 AM   #283 (permalink)
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wow.. i only just clocked into this thread..

usually i dont click on threads with american politics..anything with the words, conservatives, republicans and tea party have me steering away from the thread. it wasnt until today that i opened this thread up.

and i'll be damned.

longliveusa, your knowledge of islam is nonsense. you really do need to READ the Quran instead of taking information from televangelists. the least that will do is not make you look like a total ass in here.

just for your information, the 72 virgins that you do refer to and not mentioned in the Quran. Not once. Surprised? im sure a lot of people are. because not many people like yourself bother to read the Quran. id also note that the '72' virgins are not only reserved for 'martyrs', but for everyone. I think you need to do a little bit more reading bud.


a quick search on wiki just to prove my point

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Houri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"72 Virgins"The concept of 72 virgins in Islam refers to an aspect of paradise. In a collection by Imam at-Tirmidhi in his "Sunan" (Volume IV, Chapters on "The Features of Heaven as described by the Messenger of Allah", chapter 21: "About the Smallest Reward for the People of Heaven", hadith 2687) and also quoted by Ibn Kathir in his Tafsir (Qur'anic Commentary) of Surah Qur'an 55:72, it is stated that:

"It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard Muhammad saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a.[61]

[edit] AuthenticityRegarding the above statement, Hafiz Salahuddin Yusuf has said: "The narration, which claims that everyone would have seventy-two wives has a weak chain of narrators." [46]

[edit] ViewsMargaret Nydell states that mainstream Muslims regard this belief about 72 virgins in the same way that mainstream Christians regard the belief that after death they will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds.[62]

Another interpretation of the relevant passages of the Qur'an is The Syro-Aramaic Reading Of The Qur'an written by Christoph Luxenberg. In respect of this particular point, Luxenberg argues that the relevant passage actually translates to a portrayal of paradise as a lush garden with pooling water and trees with rare fruit, including white raisins (considered to be delicacies at the time that the Qur'an was written), not virgin maidens.[63][64]
i could go on and pull out a heaps of mistakes that longlive has mentioned, but then, whats the use?

im enjoying this read... pass the popcorn please
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