LordEden

Jesus, are you trying to get a symphony vote or something? This sounds like a political speech more than a post about pizza.

This show you talk of, is it this show? If so... I don't see how a game show with a cooking time limit has anything to do with being a masterchef unless you were on this show and won it. You may be a excellent cook, but from the recipes you have posted a long with your lack of cooking knowledge (terms [ie. cookery, pitta, basically mis-spelling every cooking term you use], techniques, and ingredients) I'm going to go with; no, you are not a good cook.

1. Do you know what it takes to become a chef or even consider yourself a excellent cook? I'm guessing your food knowledge comes from random cooking shows and maybe a recipe on the internet. Some of the posters in this sub-forum are chefs and have earned that title through schooling, hard work and determination (I am not considering myself a chef, I never earned the right to call myself that). World's King has had that title at a resturant before and I would consider him a chef (along with his peers). I've spent 8 years in a kitchen, cooking more meals than you will cook in a lifetime and I do not consider myself a chef. It takes a level of mastery and techniques that I will never attain in my lifetime. This is why the title of chef is such an honor and I spit upon those use it with a careless fashion.

2. Cooking is an art form, just as woodworking, painting, and writing is an art form. It takes years of training and a natural skill to be able to cook at the level of a chef. You are stumbling into a master artisan's woodworking shop, building a unstable bookshelf out of 2x4s and then telling him that he will never make anything as beautiful as that bookshelf. It just makes you look the fool.

Every once in a while, you make a statement I can allllllllmost agree with. A lot of fine dining resturants are full of crappy food and over priced wines. There are some restaurants that serve food that is considered the best food in the world, not because of any foo-faa, but because it is hands down some of the best food made by the best chefs in the world. Restaurants like Thomas Keller's French laundry in NYC, Marco Pierre White's The Yew Tree Inn (near Highclere in North Hampshire) and Mario Batali's Babbo in NYC. I could go on forever. Those restaurants are worth every penny you spend there, because those chefs are producing some of the best food in the world.

On a side note, Marco Pierre White is now the driving force behind "simplication in food" and is always looking out for what he calls, "The perfect english meal".

Not all good restaurants serve the TV idea of fine dinning. I'm pretty sure you have never had gourmet food and are basing everything in this thread on what you have seen on the telly.

I've already stated that you can make a pizza cheaper and in a simpler fashion in my last post. I'm not sure how much pita bread costs in the UK, but buying frozen pizza dough is cheaper than buying pita bread. Then again logic doesn't come into play when you argue.

Also, NO ONE wants to be Gordon Ramsey, he's a bloody wanker.

I'm not sure what you consider "top quality", but using pita bread to make a pizza is not "top quality". It's cheap and lazy. If that's what you are going for, fine, just don't lump it in with real quality ingredients.

BTW, canned tomato puree isn't considered a top quality ingredient by anyone. Ever.

Also, do it. 20 recipes. I want you to put 20 recipes (of your own, no cheating) up here (really, in another thread, we have threadjacked this thread enough) and I'll put 20 of my recipes up there and we will have a popular vote. Let the "real people" of TFP decide who has better recipes. You game? I'm itching to see what 20 recipes you could come up with. I'm dead fucking serious, let's do this.

Driving past the horrible grammar you have used, I'm guessing you mean "Everything", unless you are talking about people "tasting good".

Have you ever eaten at a resturant that had a michelin star? If so, why don't you list them for us. I'd like to know where you are getting these facts from.

I've ate at a lot of burger joints and never had someone give me lip at using ketchup. Why don't you tell us what restaurant you ordered this burger at?

I want a simple, filling meal when I get home too. You act like you are the only person in the world who wants some comfort food at the end of the day. None of the regular posters in this sub-forum ever "look down" upon people for posting comfort food recipes, we eat them just like anyone else.

Rabble rousing now are we?

I have never said I stand for... whatever you are trying to describe. I love comfort food and southern cooking, one of the easier cooking subsets in the food world. I was trained by good blue collar chefs who just wanted to make good food for a fair price. You act like we have our noses in the air because we make our own pizza dough. What section of your ass did you pull that out of? We like making pizza dough ourselves because we love to cook and it fucking tastes better.

You accually are cooking bachelor food and that's fine. Again, if you would have posted "a cheap and simple recipe" for pizza, that would have been fine. You didn't you pissed all over everyone else in the thread by stating you are better than everyone else and calling yourself a chef. I've cooked your "pizza" before and it was not the best pizza I've ever had. Not by a long shot.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha... ok ok I can respond to this... *pfff* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH. Oh god, oh god I can't breathe.

SF, I take back everything I said about you. Trolling in two sub-forums at the same time in one post? That takes a trolling skillset that is unheard these days. Good show, ol' chap.

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To be honest SF, you are going to win this argument. You know why? Because you never give up. You maybe stumbling around in the woods lost as any man could be, but still telling everyone you know the way. You fly into a thread and drop the biggest bomb you can think of and stand in the blast radus telling everyone you are right. I'd almost respect that if you were not talking out your ass the entire time.

I know I'm falling directly into your trap and I admit it, I took your bait. I'm here, arguing with the person no one on this board wants to argue with (except slims and plan9, but those motherfuckers are crazy). I shouldn't even be posting this, but you are defiling the one thing I love doing the most in this world. You don't even really care about this argument, you are just glad you got a rise out of me by insulting the industry I love the most. You are a master of something SF, getting a reaction out of the people on this website seems to be your forte.

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