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pan6467 · 04-06-2011, 06:09 AM

If you truly look at history, as unpopular as this may sounds the US was not truly independant of England until the war of 1812.

But I can se your hypothesis Will, and comparing the "tea parties" of then and today is comparing apples and oranges.

I find it seriously sad that a GOP governor in Florida wants to cut 170 million for the disabled while cutting taxes for corporations by 4 Billion. I was a tea partier in 08 and in all honesty that makes me sick. Once Beck and Hannity and Levine etc. started becoming the voices..... you had to be blind not to see you were being used. Where are the tea partiers voices now, when the GOP shows their true colors and blames the tea party for not resolving the budget in Washington or SB 5 here in Ohio or Wisconsin or Florida and so on.

Where is the outrage that GE can make 14 BILLION in profit and not pay taxes? You are right, the government is allowing the rich to steamroll the little guys, but this has been going on since the beginning of this country. The "land barons" of the West, the Monopolies of the late 1800's to early 1900's, the depression of the 30's, WW2 allowing our government to build a military industrial complex, the 60's when it wasn't truly about change it was about power, the narcissism and egocentrism of the 70's, Reagan dumping many programs on the states (that we now see could not afford them), the greed of the 80's, the mergers of the 90's and finally the total breakdown of the economy. With the baby boomers as a whole (not individually) whining about Social Security and 30 years ago being told they needed to plan for a future without it, hence 401k's, IRAs, and so on. Now it is time to pay the piper and we have been led down the road of credit and "borrowing" to get what we want and NOT what we need.

It's all been done before and it will be again. The credit problems we faced in the 30's and even some problems in the 1800's. We have gotten through all these crises before and we shall again. We just need a stronger leadership to get people to believe in the government again, as a nation we are too fractured.

It leads me to one of my favorite movie lines (from My Fellow Americans): You have 300 million voices and each one wants something different.

04-06-2011, 06:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	If you truly look at history, as unpopular as this may sounds the US was not truly independant of England until the war of 1812. But I can se your hypothesis Will, and comparing the "tea parties" of then and today is comparing apples and oranges. I find it seriously sad that a GOP governor in Florida wants to cut 170 million for the disabled while cutting taxes for corporations by 4 Billion. I was a tea partier in 08 and in all honesty that makes me sick. Once Beck and Hannity and Levine etc. started becoming the voices..... you had to be blind not to see you were being used. Where are the tea partiers voices now, when the GOP shows their true colors and blames the tea party for not resolving the budget in Washington or SB 5 here in Ohio or Wisconsin or Florida and so on. Where is the outrage that GE can make 14 BILLION in profit and not pay taxes? You are right, the government is allowing the rich to steamroll the little guys, but this has been going on since the beginning of this country. The "land barons" of the West, the Monopolies of the late 1800's to early 1900's, the depression of the 30's, WW2 allowing our government to build a military industrial complex, the 60's when it wasn't truly about change it was about power, the narcissism and egocentrism of the 70's, Reagan dumping many programs on the states (that we now see could not afford them), the greed of the 80's, the mergers of the 90's and finally the total breakdown of the economy. With the baby boomers as a whole (not individually) whining about Social Security and 30 years ago being told they needed to plan for a future without it, hence 401k's, IRAs, and so on. Now it is time to pay the piper and we have been led down the road of credit and "borrowing" to get what we want and NOT what we need. It's all been done before and it will be again. The credit problems we faced in the 30's and even some problems in the 1800's. We have gotten through all these crises before and we shall again. We just need a stronger leadership to get people to believe in the government again, as a nation we are too fractured. It leads me to one of my favorite movie lines (from My Fellow Americans): You have 300 million voices and each one wants something different. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"