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Old 03-24-2011, 04:53 PM   #43 (permalink)
pan6467
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Here's one for you to debate, I didn't think much at first about it other than it's a bunch of rich guys infighting.... but my attitude changed at the very end. I won't comment on what I believe because the only way to see if you actually read it would be if your comments go with the article (in that, I mean showing you actually read it and just aren't forming an opinion to just be the opposite of mine).

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---------- Post added at 07:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:37 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
Roachboy didn't hit your caps lock or choose your words. You act as if you had no choice in how you react to what at most was a leading question.
If anything I am predictable, when the right buton is pushed. I take offense to being called racist and people know that but still use it to get a rise out of me, knowing it will. I don't care if I am called other names, they don't bother me. But because of the profession I want to be in being labelled "racist" will definitely cause me problems, I do not need. I don't care if people call me a mother f'er or a GD lying piece of poo, or whatever...... but the racist part is truly uncalled for.


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Here's how I would have responded:Originally Posted by Willravel, as Pan
Yes, you're misunderstanding my post. My point was about the right to dissent. I'm concerned that calling people racist, like the example in the OP, are going to be used as an excuse to censor legitimate dissent. I believe in free speech, and free speech is threatened when people use the charge of racism to try and silence their detractors.
That is a good response, but again my button was pushed and the person pushing it, because he views this as a "game", knew he pushed it and got the response he wanted, unfortunately. He pushed it so that he could start the whole "stop whining, I win" kid's game.

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I actually agree with the point you were trying to make. Unfortunately, we live in a world where being called anti-Semetic is the ultimate charge whereas being anti-Muslim is normal, so it's not quite the same thing, but your point is still valid
Well I am truly happy in my disaster of a response you got what I meant. Not that I care if you found it valid or not (I don't care how my points or opinions are found by others, because everyone should be allowed to find their own.) That is one reason TFP politics sucked me in..... a few years ago there were so many different voices and opinions and originality that it was fun because people shared their opinions and ideas and did so without having to be worried about a label. We label bananas and fruits and vegetables and everything in our society. Why must we label people? Must friendships be destroyed simply because the opinions differ? Isn't that a good thing in ANY relationship? I find having someone dissent with my opinions actually helps teach me. There is a huge difference between different opinions and trying to "put someone down" for the difference so that the one may feel superior.

Trust me, my self esteem is such these days that I KNOW I am not superior to anyone.
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