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Old 03-23-2011, 06:36 PM   #26 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
There you go with emotions again, exaggerating a perceived attack against you. It doesn't help your position, at all.
Politics and religion are the 2 things people should never argue because they are held by most individuals to be extremely self identifying and thus people for the most part become emotional. I do because I am passionate about my beliefs, right or wrong I say my piece. The only issue I have here is once I was called a racist, I had someone constantly bringing it up in almost EVERY thread I would post in and then when I would rightfully say something because what he would say was pure attack and had very little to do with the OP, I became someone "playing victim" and thus what I said seemed to not matter.

I did not say there was a percieved attack, in here.... was just telling it like it is and how I see things, in other words MY OPINION, nothing more nothing less. I am trying very hard to keep my patience. BUT I DID NOT COME BACK FOR BULLSHIT. There is that what you wanted from me???????? Seems to be.

The same people who yelled and screamed it was "patriotic and the right thing to do" when criticizing Bush and told people that defended him how stupid they were...... are now for the most part steadfastly defending Obama the same way those who defended Bush did. The difference is and it is a fact that people love to pull that race card on people that criticize Obama. When race truly has nothing to do with what are his plans in Afghaniston? Why do you cut vet benefits and still pay contractors HUNDREDS of MILLIONS? Why are you cutting benefits to the people and going on a 2 front war, when you criticized 2 front wars (Iraq and Afghanistan) before you were in power? Why did you bail out banks, when all they did was raise fees and interest rates and kept foreclosing on homes you funded an agency to help with yet, how many were ripped off and preyed upon and told to "wait" while they lost their homes? Why are people forced to pay more for meds than they make in a month? How do you live with yourself when you show nothing but contradiction and not leadership? True leadership is sticking by your beliefs right or wrong, not trying to appease people. Here's news you were elected president because a majority believed in you as a leader. Now lead for Christ's sake. Stop being a namby pamby and stand up for your beliefs. Life is too short to try to play both sides. The people who play both sides are usually starving for approval and will never get it by people who truly matter. This country has people with no job, no income, needing meds and you sit and bail out banks???????? And people who criticize this are wrong? wow......

But that doesn't matter, all the above is still Bush's fault and the GOP.

And if anyone does have the nerve to voice an opinion not Dem. approved, we label them so that we can disregard what they say. And we hound them until they show emotion..... and then we can claim victory.... F(&*^*&^% that Bullshit. I am me, I am not a fucking label. Am I emotional at times? YES. Is this one of the times? YES

Are there excuses?

I can name numerous, hounded on here for what 3 years and called racist and just battered because I have emotion and passion for my beliefs, right or wrong. A divorce last year, loss of job, a son who has literally said he doesn't care if I live or die when I got home from a stroke, a brain infection, near death, 3 craniotomies, a craniectomy..... still have infection they have no idea what it is and may operate again just to get a culture and see why the flagyl and rocephin aren't touching it. On IV antibiotics twice a day, with a picc line in my arm, that gets taped up so it doesn't get caught on my sleeves, can't sleep worth shit, the ambian and trazadone combined don't help.

Yes, there are all kinds of excuses, but I don't want to use them, because I don't believe in excuses. I'm not a martyr nor do I want to be. But I will remain true to who I am. I will stand for what I believe in. One thing all this has taught me is how short life is and how in the end all you truly have are your beliefs and convictions. I come here like most to just share them and make friends. Which was hard to do when unrightfully labelled and harrassed until I became emotional. I don't come here to "win points on my political views". I express my opinion, pure and simple. Take from it what you want.

So believe what you want DC. I do not have to answer to you or anyone but myself. There are other places I can go and you can always put me on ignore if you don't like what I say. I truly don't care.

---------- Post added at 09:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:31 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
I don't want this thread to be about you and racism. I want this thread to be about what anti-Semtisim is or Israeli foreign policy or dissent or freedom of speech and censorship.
Really?????? WHEN DID I BRING IT UP?????????? Maybe after this post from Roachboy........

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pan: am i misunderstanding your post? are you trying to defend some imaginary right to be a racist? because you don't like muslims? seriously? are you really going there? i'd like to be wrong...
So exactly WHERE did I start the BULLSHIT..... or are you backing off because you couldn't come up with better examples when I asked you to?

And it is easier to paint the picture of me playing victime when it wasn't even started by me......

Ya know what FUCK YOU..... I'M GONE FUCKING BAN ME
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