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Originally Posted by roachboy
the united states is looking to turn over the task of co-ordination to nato in the coming days. the idea is plain--the united states is not going to play a central role in running this show. nor are they going to play a leading role in executing it. but they'll help. this is a job for shiny weapons systems, apparently. the administration's been quite clear about this.
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Obama was also all about Kadafi needing to step down. Kadafi responded that he won't. O.k., what's next? Not clear.
Humanitarian action to save lives??? What that really means is Kadafi employs a different strategy. Unless there is real support of the rebels a no fly zone is virtually meaningless. Strategy is not clear.
Not a central role??? Right! Hey, I own a bridge in Brooklyn, wanna buy it? What is "not a central role" two weeks from now, a month from now, 6 months from now? We have a nice vague concept here - "not a central role" - not clear.
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there are real questions about what's going to follow the implementation of the no-fly zone. the juan cole article i posted above references kosovo as a possible way of thinking about how political organization for the rebels might come out of the process of establishing the no-fly zone. the distinctions and linkages are made pretty clear in the article---assuming you actually read it.
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Did you read my post. The key question regarding outside involvement in a civil war is on the table. Do you understand the point, do I need to walk through it with you? Why ignore this question. it is like the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Everything else is like white noise until this question is answered. In most failed revolutions, the lessons of Sun Tzu are often not headed - in this case consider the quote below and shame on us for not providing real leadership in this regard.
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Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Sun Tzu
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The rebel cause was lost from the start, and they need more than a no fly zone.
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The more I think about this the more it bothers me.
Think about it this way. You are a Lybian rebel. You get word of the UN rsolution of a no fly zone. You hear and see UN coalition planes and rockets hitting Kadafi targets. You think you have the support of the world and that they will come to your aid as needed. You fight on. You fight on. Then one day when things are at their worst and you wait for the Calvary...it doesn't show up...the slaughter occurs.
Either we commit, or stay out. Being half way in is wrong.