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Originally Posted by roachboy
right. we might have known but thanks to the cowboy mentality of the bush administration the united states was and is not in a position to go it alone either militarily or politically. the bullshit critiques of the un advanced by the project for a new american century crowd hold no water---but resemble your position.
it was the americans more than anyone else whose position accounts for it taking this long to get the security council to act.
by-passing the un in order to act in the name of legality on another country is a non-starter.
but you can thank the republicans for making absolutely sure that is the case.
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I agree that the US has lost any sort of moral or political high ground to act unilaterally on these matters. I also agree that is a byproduct of the Iraq campaign.
I might be missing your point on my bullshit critique of the UN, though, because it seems like you are arguing my point. In one sense you are stating that my complaint that one country can stop all countries from action "holds no water." But then in the next sentence, you verify that the problem was that one country (the US) held up all other countries from action. If the veto process didn't exist and a 2/3 or simple majority was in place, action could have been swift. Perhaps unpopular to some, but swift.
Am I misunderstanding?
Look, I believe I understand your allegiance is more global than national. I don't necessarily agree with that, but I respect it. But, please understand that my complaint has very little to do with any sense of "Rah! Rah! USA!" and mostly to do with the obvious shortcomings in the veto process. You don't find it...flawed?