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Originally Posted by flstf
No, only that our government allow those of us who must buy healthcare, etc.. on the open market to keep enough to provide these benefits to our families before forcing us to pay for others. This is besides the point but we cannot even claim healthcare insurance as a deduction on our income taxes except on the amount that exceeds something like 6-7% of our income unlike employer and government furnished insurance which is totally tax free to the employees.
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Public subsidies for employer provided health insurance takes up a higher proportion of the budget than public pensions. So unless you are completely against the very existence of public servants there is no way to make this argument work.
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Originally Posted by dogzilla
No. What I'm saying is that it fixes the current budget problems, and it fixes the problem if/when the economy recovers of the unions holding the state hostage then by saying we gave up xxx in 2011, we deserve xxx + yyy now.
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But the unions have already agreed to the current cuts, so the bill as it stands does nothing for the current budget crisis. As such, the only reason for the existence of the current bill in its unadulterated form is to prevent mobilizing by a key democratic constituency in the future.