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Old 03-04-2011, 04:04 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Do you watch and read the news? There has clearly been a shift. Many in the media will no longer mention Palin as a potential GOP hopeful for the nomination. This shift happened in the last 30 days. People have made a decision to ignore her.
I'm honestly not sure what we're even arguing about at this point.
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What you post does not support your claim.
On the contrary, it most certainly does. The difference is simple: when I converse with or observe conservatives, I'm doing it as someone who does not agree with them on many things. I don't end up filtering out things which I disagree with in order to maintain a sense of ideological unity. I'm ashamed to say I don't always maintain that level of objectivity when it comes to people on the left, which leads me to suspect that the same is true of conservatives. Tell me, how vigilantly did you, in other political venues (be they forums, real life, Fox News comments, etc.), challenge the Birthers when they first came out of the woodwork? Did you champion reality, or did you ignore it and agree with the Birthers on other matters without mentioning it?
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Those are sources, but they are somewhat removed from the grass roots level of conservative thought. All the above have agendas, either to entertain, make money or otherwise capitalize on being in the alleged forefront of conservative thought.
There are grassroots sources on the right, but they hold almost no influence over the majority of conservatives. I don't ignore Eisenhower-esque or Ron Paul-ish sites, but I'm more than certain that their effect on conservative thought is minuscule at best. Moderate conservatives and true libertarians, which are the only real alternatives to the neoconservatives nowadays, are quite whispers compared to the megaphones of conservative talk radio, Fox News, and conservative political blogs like Drudge.
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He said he misspoke regarding the Kenya comment and that was not the point of his commentary. The point was regarding his world view as it related to British colonialism.
I'm sure Huck wants people to think he misspoke. If I said something like that and was caught, I'd not want to take responsibility for it either. I suppose cowardice is normal in a situation like that.
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