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Originally Posted by Seaver
Would you be ok living in China because they're capitalistic even though they have 0 rights? Government systems and economic systems are separate.
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Your question is confusing, because I do not know how you have real capitalism without rights.
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A complete tangent but I'll bite. You're right, the US is an oligarchy. It's also the biggest danger we as a country face, as the rich families convince us to continually vote in their favor as the country itself suffers. Hell I learned a long time ago I'd never get to retire... at least now I know it's because of the oligarchy we live in.
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I moved out of California because those in power were not in sync with my views. I moved to a state where those in power more closely reflected my values. hence I have no problem with oligarchy, when those in power reflect my views and my values.
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You continually show your lack of education for the region Ace, please stop arguing about stuff you've had 0 education in.
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That is my point. You and others seem to think this situation is somehow special and unique - it is not. Human behavior is predictable.
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We are seeing more or less the same thing here in the US, where employment levels for College Grads are approaching 30% when you don't count jobs that pay less than $25k.
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Excessive centralized controls over the economy, like in Egypt hinders productive employment. Egypt, and to a lesser degree here, has an economy not growing fast enough to absorb the growth in the labor pool. The problem is global in scope and affecting various countries in various degrees - but it stll comes down to economics. That has been the general theme of the points I present, and it is not complicated.
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Please don't just "quotation" any word you've never heard of before and write off the entire reason for it to be there. It's not too hard to google something you don't know, and it might enlighten entire aspects of the world you don't know.
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When I use quotations around a word, it is often when that word is open to various interpretations or is more context based than would be the case in normal discourse.
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Originally Posted by dlish
No. im talking about Bahrain, not the sunni-shia split in Islam. I stand by my comment that you have no idea about the motivations of the Bahraini protestors.
in other news in Bahrain, interesting news coming from al jazeera is that wikileaks documents have Bahraini officials warning the US that some people in the Bahraini opposition have been trained by Hezbollah in lebanon. lt looks like the iranian element may be at play here.
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I agree that there are going to be factions in a "revolution" that will have what may be considered hidden motivations not consistent with the motives of the masses.