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zenda · 02-19-2011, 04:38 PM

Hi Zeraph

In England, I believe it WOULD be considered assault. Definitely abuse.

Now ... MY feelings would include 'kill the &*%$£ bastard'

If I had friends around me, I'd definitely do what I call a 'Hold Me Back' thread, if it were online, or if face to face, I'd surround myself with people with whom I can express my ... my anger and agony etc, along with knowledge that i DO have to do SOMETHING ... it is not a matter for simply suffering and hoping. I would be in a very energetic mix of grim-mirthful exaggeration, genuine thirst for blood, need to get confirmation that I can feel all this but that I am still a 'safe' person, confirmation that I am not wimping by wanting to support the peaceful solutions.

"How much clearer can I be"
Well, Cimarron29414 will answer for h/erself.

I will however say the following: IF I were in your situation, and feeling the way your words indicate, then I'd KNOW that at some point in the, hopefully near future, i will be going to where she's at to help her move her stuff out.
I will be going there KNOWING that I am going to do the right thing, the safe thing, the cautious thing. I will calm and control my urge for blood.

As You Are Doing Here, Zeraph .... and all respect to you for this.

As, to help her remove her stuff, I stand in her apartment, I cannot predict the atmosphere.
'HE' might not even be there. Phew.
He Might be there. Cool. PERHAPS.
And perhaps not.

You cannot be clearer than you are.
I consider you are perfectly clear, and do you know who I would want to have By My Side when I went to help her move out?
Cimarron. That's who.

And if s/he could not be with me, I'd want h/er WORDS to be a blazing and protective ring of fire between ME with my good intentions, and HIM, who is not under oath to support your peaceful resolve.

In HIS presence, it is the messages of someone like Cimarron which need to stand guard when today's fantasies and theorycrafting, will be in your mind on some tomorrow when you have to make REAL split-second decisions.

What I'd do would be to go with two friends ... one of either sex, perhaps. That would give a message of 'non threatening,' provide witness, and diffuse the effects of or on any one of the main personalities involved.

I'll close by reiterating my 'strictly on topic' response to your thread: YES .. it's abuse, and I'd feel like killing and maiming the bastard ... not necessarily in that order. In my heart of hearts, I would not feel that my wish to punish and wreak payback was wrong. I WOULD GRASP the politically and personal-freedomly unsafe consequences of doing so. At a DEEPER LEVEL, something inside, some DEEPER MIX of prudence, intellect, emotion and spirituality NOW would be going [[[[[ ohshitohshitohshit]]]] and know it's right to accept the very serious support of very serious friends.

That's the gist of my own theorycrafting.

Take care.

02-19-2011, 04:38 PM	#22 (permalink)
zenda Crazy Location: London, England	Hi Zeraph In England, I believe it WOULD be considered assault. Definitely abuse. Now ... MY feelings would include 'kill the &%$£ bastard' If I had friends around me, I'd definitely do what I call a 'Hold Me Back' thread, if it were online, or if face to face, I'd surround myself with people with whom I can express my ... my anger and agony etc, along with knowledge that i DO have to do SOMETHING ... it is not a matter for simply suffering and hoping. I would be in a very energetic mix of grim-mirthful exaggeration, genuine thirst for blood, need to get confirmation that I can feel all this but that I am still a 'safe' person, confirmation that I am not wimping by wanting to support the peaceful solutions. "How much clearer can I be" Well, Cimarron29414 will answer for h/erself. I will however say the following: IF I were in your situation, and feeling the way your words indicate, then I'd KNOW that at some point in the, hopefully near future, i will be going to where she's at to help her move her stuff out. I will be going there KNOWING that I am going to do the right thing, the safe thing, the cautious thing. I will calm and control my urge for blood. As You Are Doing Here, Zeraph .... and all respect to you for this. As, to help her remove her stuff, I stand in her apartment, I cannot predict the atmosphere. 'HE' might not even be there. Phew. He Might be there. Cool. PERHAPS. And perhaps not. You cannot be clearer than you are. I consider you are perfectly clear, and do you know who I would want to have By My Side when I went to help her move out? Cimarron. That's who. And if s/he could not be with me, I'd want h/er WORDS to be a blazing and protective ring of fire between ME with my good intentions, and HIM, who is not under oath to support your peaceful resolve. In HIS presence, it is the messages of someone like Cimarron which need to stand guard when today's fantasies and theorycrafting, will be in your mind on some tomorrow when you have to make REAL split-second decisions. What I'd do would be to go with two friends ... one of either sex, perhaps. That would give a message of 'non threatening,' provide witness, and diffuse the effects of or on any one of the main personalities involved. I'll close by reiterating my 'strictly on topic' response to your thread: YES .. it's abuse, and I'd feel like killing and maiming the bastard ... not necessarily in that order. In my heart of hearts, I would not feel that my wish to punish and wreak payback was wrong. I WOULD GRASP the politically and personal-freedomly unsafe consequences of doing so. At a DEEPER LEVEL, something inside, some DEEPER MIX of prudence, intellect, emotion and spirituality NOW would be going [[[[[ ohshitohshitohshit]]]] and know it's right to accept the very serious support of very serious friends. That's the gist of my own theorycrafting. Take care. __________________ ZENDA*