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Old 02-18-2011, 01:47 PM   #262 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
meanwhile, out in the world that exists outside the tiny confines of ace's skull....
I think there are two possibilities, either you support the revolution for free market capitalism for the masses or you support the trade of one form of tyrannical rule for another. I bet you o.k. with tyrannical rule as long as it is consistent with your economic ideology. Perhaps, "power to the people" does not characterize what you think is best for Egypt.

Or, do you really believe that without economic reform that includes free market capitalism Egyptians will be o.k. with what is from your post:

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to actually release prisoners and stop disappearing protestors, etc.
the more radical demands are for the elimination of the oligarchy itself.
And if I may, on this idea of the more radical demands for the elimination of oligarchy -

Isn't the US form of democracy as a political system an oligarchy?
Is there a workable political system in operation on a national level anywhere in the world that is not an oligarchy?
Is the elimination of oligarchy really the ultimate goal of the protesters or is it perhaps more basic?

And before you go into your thing about my skull, understand that some people with formal lernin' have had the same questions:

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Robert Michels believed that any political system eventually evolves into an oligarchy. He called this the iron law of oligarchy. According to this school of thought, modern democracies should be considered as oligarchies. In these systems, actual differences between viable political rivals are small, the oligarchic elite impose strict limits on what constitutes an acceptable and respectable political position, and politicians' careers depend heavily on unelected economic and media elites. Thus the popular phrase: there is only one political party, the incumbent party.
Oligarchy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I thought you would be one who was all into the "iron law of oligarchy" thing. But, I have been wrong many times.

But that is boring stuff, tell me more about my imagination or that I don't know noth'n - or how about 'oh my goodness, he used Wikipedia'...
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