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Originally Posted by noodle
I'm going to say it: I'm with niner to a point.
Suicide is awful for those left behind, but for the person involved, it's not a "right" or "wrong" situation. It's always the solution that they chose. Whether we say it's okay or not, it's what they chose. Their misery or suffering was theirs, completely and totally. Who are we to say it was the right or wrong choice because we think so. I truly believe that when you're immersed in those feelings it seems as if there is no alternative, then that is where you are and no one else can truly empathize. It's not wrong, it's not right... it just is. And we have to deal with our own feelings about it. So, trying to decide when it's acceptable and when it's not is kind of a moot point. In my opinion.
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I like how you say this. My belief is that NOT 1 person that commits suicide on purpose without having laid down clues to where their head and mentality is. I have known a few suicide victims and each time after the deed you could look back and see their hidden cries for help, that apparently noone saw during their life.
I just believe "spontaneous" suicides are very rare. Family, friends etc should see the change in their friend/sibling/child/etc. Isolating, refusing to do things they loved to do, increase in drugs and alcohol intake, sleeplessness, acting as if they do not "see" or cannot "think" of a better happier time for them. Using phrases such as if something were to happen....... no future tenses but a lot of past tenses.... "I loved playing tennis, before I blew my knee out."
The red flags I believe are 99% always there it's just seeing them and pointing them out to the person and trying to help them out. Attitudes can change.