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Old 02-10-2011, 06:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by levite View Post
In general, I don't hold with suicide as a response to psychological pain, because most of the time, that pain can be alleviated with therapy, self-work, time and experience, and sometimes medication

I wouldn't necessarily advocate suicide as a response to paralysis, but I guess I could understand it. I expect it would depend a lot on the person and the situation...To my mind there are pretty much only two immediately unproblematic reasons for suicide: suffering from an incurable degenerative disease that is in, or is about to be in, an advanced stage; suffering from an incurable disease of mental degeneration or progressive dementia.
The problem here is that you are only covering the physical. To have or believe all you have is your mind and intelligence and see it stripped away... no med I know of will fix that. If so, I'd be shooting up right now. But ANY med that plays with the brain IMHO, would mess with who I am. I am not a big believer in meds "solving" mental illness. All they truly do is allow one to mask their problems internally. Why else would almost EVERY single anti depressant on the market say, "May cause an increase in suicidal ideations"? Maybe because everyone's brain is different. Hence the never ending need to keep drugging a person into a zombie with Zoloft, with benzodiazapines like xanax, klonopin, and so on. For some, yes, the right combo may help, but for others as they have told me, "It made me laugh on the outside but inside I still wanted to die."

Not a revelation I know but most drug addicts and alcoholics are on antidepressants and if the pills worked they wouldn't need to keep self medicating, with their drug of choice.

Just because you (and I mean this in a general sense because for the majority it applies) can understand physical pain, some can take it and build a high "tolerence" to it. The mental pain can be far worse and isn't easily explained or cannot "just go away" even with a medication, self/professional help, etc. "But we are told there are meds to take that away". Yes, and the big Pharms, make BILLIONS every year selling the public that the latest pill will cure their depression or anxiety. So, as a society, we recognize people are different skin, hair, and eye colors, and physical builds, we can somewhat understand, we can see" that and we understand. But when it comes to recognizing that our mentalities maybe different that who we are "inside" is as different as we are outside then we seem to be at a loss. Hence, hostility over political and religious philosophies. Hence, our not being able to understand mental anguish so severe that it supercedes any physical pain, for some people.

This is just my reasoning IF I am in the position where I believe that which is most precious to me, my mind is not there or where I want it to be. And no I am not suicidal, I am enjoying the fact that I have been given another chance by the God of my understanding.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

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