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Originally Posted by roachboy
the central demand from the revolution---and i think it's fair to call it that---is that mubarak step down. it is mubarak and his circle who assume that the only alternative to themselves is chaos.
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The current situation is chaos, that is the point of an uprising or "revolution". However, the long-term issues are still on the table and actually may be more important. People need to start to transition from the current situation to clearly defining what the long-term goals are.
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there are arguments that people who buy the worldview centered on the american national security state can make for mubarak staying in power---but you're not making any of them. those arguments are all rubbish in any event. the only people who buy them have been getting briefed by fading conservatives and lobbyists in the employ of likud. you know, the same tired old reactionaries that have opposed democracy as something more than a word where-ever it has raised its head for 70 years.
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What is with all of these un-named conservatives? Who the hell are you talking about?
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Originally Posted by roachboy
actually, ace, it's not obvious yet what the resignation would mean---if it happens-----because it's not obvious what would be in place afterward. it could mean any number of things. it's---you know----complicated and uncertain.
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It is not possible for Mubarak to revert back to his old ways. He no longer has control of the nation. There is going to be a power vacuum between now and when official elections are held. No structural problems will be solved during this time. These things we do know. These things are not complicated.