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Old 01-20-2011, 01:49 PM   #3275 (permalink)
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who definies "guilt"?
Facts. She's guilty of the conquest of Gilneas. That is, unless you don't believe that conquest is evil, in which case, it's "just business" or the Gilneans "had it coming."

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The supposed victim of the werewolf curse is himself (or at least is very likely to be) already a werewolf. This doesnt make you question the story of the events given by Gilneas?
The curse is still a curse. Even if Greymane had it the whole time during this storyline, he's still a victim of the worgen curse. But, again, this is beside the point if we're analyzing the actions of Sylvanas.

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You accuse Sylvanas of making the Gilnean's werewolves... ask yourself, how are her interests served by making the human bigots who wish to hunt her people out of existence into superstrong, supervicious, animals?
I'm not accusing her of making them into the worgen; I'm accusing her of invading and attempting to conquer Gilneas. And she has a history of using biological weapons—the Forsaken Blight—which is so terrible that even the Horde warchief ordered her to stop using it, and she refused.

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Why would she do something so against her best interests?
Regardless of whether it's in her interests or not to attack Gilneas, it's in her direct interest to conquer Gilneas to redeem herself with the Horde after the events at Wrathgate.


I find it difficult to accept your having so much sympathy for someone who resorts to actions that are no less than a reprehensible atrocity. The fact that she's under orders does not absolve her of her guilt.

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how are her interests served by making the human bigots who wish to hunt her people out of existence into superstrong, supervicious, animals?
Also, you know very well the Gilneans were isolationist. They weren't "bigots who wish to hunt her people out of existence."
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