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Originally Posted by roachboy
so long as people like ace remain a quaint minority who cultivate the garden of neo-fascism in a blissful state of unknowing immediacy, the tendencies to substitute self-congratulation for argument and to draw validation from the fact of confrontation rather than from argument (either at the level of internal coherence or at that of descriptive power with respect to the world) are just funny.
but if people who think this way manage somehow to get power, useful tools for some corporate oligarchs (which is now the case) or not, then they'll be every bit as dangerous.
consider this new ace-ism about purity of belief and how it wards off "evil"----why lots of fine blonde boys from germany thought much the same way in the 1930s. that kind of thinking helped motivate the extermination of the left and homosexuals and the physically infirm. then it really started to unfold its special magic.
this thread is an even stronger argument than is the sarah palin (tm) show that the ultra right should never be allowed anywhere near power.
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Is there anything you consider evil, if so what and why?
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
Well, I'm fully ready to have a debate with ace, it's just that he doesn't tend to engage with arguments. He instead prefers to debate the validity of premises, using such tools as red herrings, false equivalences, and straightforward confusion.
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On the subject of this thread, my premise is that the english language is a living language and the use of the term blood libel was used correctly and in context by Palin. The premise that I found invalid is that Palin is ignorant. Aside from the tangents here and there what I argue is very solid.
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And so everything becomes a false start, or it devolves into an argument about something unrelated, such as the differences between the behaviour patterns of cats and dogs.
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Like I brought that up???? You said your dog had convictions, then you followed up with a musing about the convictions of your cats. I would love for a real impartial person to read this thread and comment on it, it would be enlightening.
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
or cats, apparently.
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I love you guys, I am literally laughing out loud.
Did you know cats are evil.
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
People are killing each other all the time. I think the murder rate for the US is higher then most developed nations. Not really sure what you do about that. Any ideas?
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Law enforcement.
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Who in the US is trying to enslave other people?
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Cats. I ask my wife all the time what reward she gets from having a cat.
Seriously, I have never called anyone in the US evil. However I did consider Saddam Hussein evil and I supported Bush's efforts in removing him from power.