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Originally Posted by Willravel
Force you? Stop being so melodramatic. You can't force someone to do something with persuasive arguments.
You don't acknowledge who is saying what? Oh, that's right, you're aware they're saying it regardless of whether or not you're willing to "acknowledge" it or not. Reality is there whether you like it or not. Notice that you're not saying you don't care with this statement, but that you refuse to admit they exist. This is bizarre language.
Why did you even bother to post in this thread and engage in this discussion if you're so very above all of this, if it's outside even of the world you acknowledge?
Your first post in this thread is about how you think this rhetoric is important to our democracy. Since then, you've backed way off this statement, even going so far as to not even acknowledge that this rhetoric even exists to you. Which is it? Do you have an opinion or don't you? And if you do, do you understand that you can be held responsible for that opinion?
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Will, I don't know what you're drinking but it must be some good shit because you are totally making shit up.
Will, the ability for people to make their statements and claims is an important tent pole for democracy. If you don't see that that's your issue not mine.
I've not backed down from anything. You want me to admit to something that I don't believe in. I don't need to decry anything because I already don't subscribe to their position nor their media or the consumption of their media. Why is that so hard to believe?
I think that they should be able to say what they have been as long as it's within the legal limits (not yelling fire in a crowded theater and not directly threatening someone with violence.) You think that everyone should denounce it and that's fine. I'm more of a live and let live person. Those people can and will continue to create media sensationalism, I don't subscribe to their positions nor do I consume their media. I don't agree with anything they say nor do I agree with it, because I don't really know what it is that they are saying. I think that they should be free to say it since they have the airwaves and their group has paid for it in some fashion.
I don't watch Glen Beck, I don't listen to Rush. I read things for myself and not really need them interpreted and predigested for me. I won't watch your little clip from youtube either because I don't care to watch him.
Why do I need to denounce their opinion? Why do I need to denounce anything that they say? The converse of this is if you'd agree with their position you'd be asking me for an affirmation for something that I cannot affirm either.
No. I flat out disagree with that.
If we had a new party come into power that was like Hamas and called for the destruction of Israel and Jews, I really don't care. I don't need to denounce them. I don't even need to acknowledge them. It's not much different than that. I get to find out that anyone who associates with a group I can decide to find out about someone's associations and then decide at that time if I agree or disagree with them. I get to do it on my terms not yours, not some other media pundit.
I get to put my energy into supporting something that I do care about. I don't care to waste my energy on things that I don't care about nor find that I have to use my energy against something. Why is that so difficult for the Willravel brain to understand?
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