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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
Tully, I think it is important because it allows one to see clearly the intention and lunacy of the group. If they do not speak of such things and just carry them out it secrecy and conspiracy, it doesn't help people decide if it is the right course of action. It is more of the same rhetoric and political activity, this time with just violence included.
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Could you possible rephrase or clarify this? I'm not exactly sure what you're saying.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
I find it interesting that when we analyze the right-wing rhetoric for its problems of violence, red-baiting, and the demonization of liberalism, the response is often: "what about the left, huh?"
Sure.
First, we're looking at the right. Why not address what the right is doing? Why look left?
Second, the left (or centre-left, I should say) doesn't tend to have this same problem.
In Hannity's interview of Palin last night, the best examples (ostensibly) that they came up with regarding the "violent left-wing rhetoric" were more than two years old and came from a pop star, a stand-up comedian, and an amateur web comic. Nothing screamed more "grasping at straws" than that part of the interview. (And, as you can imagine, it wasn't a very interesting interview. It seemed more of an advertorial than an interview. I'm not sure any new information was obtained, at least not anything that you wouldn't otherwise predicted.)
I know that the Democrats just as much as the Republicans have been known to use maps with targets, "war boards," etc., during campaigns. If that was the limit of Palin's themes, then it would be a different story. It's not.
If you can't see that the limits of Palin's (and Republicans' and Tea Partiers') discourse goes beyond the typical liberal, then I don't know what else to tell you. It's right there.
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I think we look left because it's important to look at the whole picture and understand it's not just one sided when it comes to violent, threatening speech. A man, as pointed out above, was arrested in Az. for making threats directed at the tea party.
Groups like ELF have been fire bombing businesses and research facilities they don't like for years. I think there's more groups on the right and they have national TV and radio outlets for their hate speech so you hear more about it. But the left has it's own lunatics.