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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
I hope they throw the book at the Az man who made the threatening remarks. I don't care what side you're on violent, threatening hate filled speech or not acceptable.
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You can't comment on the statement made by Beck? It's on his web page, the full transcript is there if you care to read it. If he posts it on his web site I'm not sure you say it's hearsay.
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fair enough... I'll absolutely look at it. If he did what you say... as you say, then I'm on-board regarding Beck.
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Originally Posted by Willravel
What context are you imagining in which fantasizing about strangling Michael Moore to death is acceptable? People have recordings of Beck's radio show when he said this all over the internet. Here is a copy:
YouTube - Hate Speech From the Right -- Episode 1: Glenn Beck Wants to KILL Michael Moore
So you're simply unwilling to rebuke an on-air fantasy about strangling Michael Moore to death? That's totally acceptable to you, not as a free speech issue, as neither of us are the government, but rather as acceptable behavior? |
If you saw my reply to Tully, I said I will take a look. I'm on my cell-phone, so I'll look when I get home. If true about Beck's on-air Michael Moore fantasy I'll say "that's terrible" and "how irresponsible". Let's pretend that IS the case... "that's terrible" and "how irresponsible", says otto. And I would not approve of such speech.
Getting back to my point... I asked where do you stand on violent speech in general, or does only count when it comes from the right? They could have used a fictional president for the assassination play I mentioned, but they used the name of a sitting president. But wait.. is W dead? Is Michael Moore dead? And with his (MM) considerable means, has he made an attempt to take civil action against Beck or launch a campaign to discredit Beck? Where does all this hate come from? I don't like it either. But what makes your argument appear suspect is the obvious slant against the right when the evidence just doesn't support your one-sided view. If you're interested in solving a problem, perhaps polarizing the problem isn't the best place to start.
And one more thought.... is anger ever justified?
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Oh no - not Clint Eastwood and CNN's Bill Hemmer too!
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From the NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...
Thursday, Jan. 13, 2005 11:40 a.m. EST
Clint Eastwood: I'll Kill Michael Moore
"Dirty Harry" actor Clint Eastwood says if Michael Moore ever shows up at his door with a camera, he will kill the controversial movie director.
Eastwood stunned a New York filmmaking audience with his comments, the New York Daily News' Lloyd Grove reported today in his must-read column.
"Michael Moore and I actually have a lot in common - we both appreciate living in a country where there's free expression," Eastwood was quoted as telling the National Board of Review awards dinner in New York Tuesday night.
With a cold glare Eastwood took notice of Moore sitting in the audience and said bluntly and without a smile: "But, Michael, if you ever show up at my front door with a camera - I'll kill you."
The Daily News reports the audience erupted in laughter, and Eastwood grinned. "I mean it," Eastwood said again.
One of the few Republicans in Hollywood, Eastwood once served as mayor of Carmel, Calif.
Eastwood made his comments while accepting the Special Filmmaking Achievement prize for "Million Dollar Baby."
Moore was said to be in the rear of the audience when Eastwood made his biting remarks.
Moore also won the group's "Freedom of Expression" award for his Bush-bashing "Fahrenheit 9/11."
Apparently, Moore has not taken kindly to death threats in the past.
The News notes that last year "Moore was outraged when CNN anchor Bill Hemmer suggested during an interview that some folks might want to see him dead."
"Can you think of any other interview in the history of television where a
politician or a movie director was asked about people wanting to see him dead?" Moore was quoted as saying.
Moore may have lightened up a bit. His agent told the News, "Michael laughed along with everyone else, and took Mr. Eastwood's comments in the lighthearted spirit in which they were given."
Still, we hope Michael Moore won't put Eastwood to the test and show up at his door with a camera.
"Go ahead, punk, make my day."
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Just something I found while trying to locate a complete transcript of the Glenn Beck wants to kill Michael Moore episode from 2005. I'll keep looking.