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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
So, ace, you love her carefully manufactured messages?
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Yes.
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I suppose the most recent video was well made. I wonder how much it cost her. I'm also wondering if this is a turning point in the "is she going to run/isn't she going to run" question.
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I doubt her intent was to run when she resigned as governor. I assumed she wanted to write her book, go on the speaking tour, then go back to Alaska and live happily ever after. Problem is in her personality. "You" won't leave her alone and she can't walk away from a fight. I understand, because I have the same personality.
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Are you not concerned about her ability to handle situations on the fly, or her ability to process new information and think about it critically?
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Certainly I would be concerned. No one person is perfect, hence you need a good team. Understanding her personality she would need some strong willed people with diplomatic skills on her team. With Obama, I have always said he needed some people with real world business experience on his team. Bush needed Chaney, a pitbull, on his team.
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Anyway, it's difficult to ignore such a dangerous and misleading voice in American politics.
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I disagree. She is a voice of reason in my view. She is a real person who understands dealing with issues that normal people confront daily. She is not a belt way insider, she is not an academic, she is not a "blue blood" - she is so refreshing to listen to because she is a reflection of real people.
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Not that it matters. Ignoring her won't change much.
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You finally get it.
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If anything, she'll sell that as "the elite's indifference/apathy regarding the problems facing America." She might not be the best debater, but she certainly knows how to push the conservative populist rhetoric.
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You almost show that you get it here. It is not rhetoric. With Palin and those of us who support her, we take these issues very seriously. As I often say regarding Obama and why I don't understand him is that his words have no meaning and are not connected to his actions. Liberals live in a world of rhetoric, I don't.
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Originally Posted by Derwood
We don't want her to go away. We want her to stay in the forefront so that maybe she'll run for President in 2012
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Careful of what you wish for. Palin is a winner. I would never bet against her.
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
For the record I do not hate Palin. I understand she's a mother, a wife, someones daughter. She has kids I'm sure they love their mother, as they should. I do not like her public persona, not even sure if she buys all the BS she's shoveling. I think much of what she says is very uneducated and ill advised and misinformed. I also think much of what she says hurts the country way more then it helps. But I would feel bad if someone decided to preform an act of violence towards her or family. That would likely hurt the country more then anything she's done.. so far.
I agree with Derwood, right now I'm hoping she runs in 2012. But only because I believe the vast majority of US voters do not buy her line of BS.
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You repeat a narrative regarding being uneducated, ill advised and misinformed that is inconsistent with her actual accomplishments. How do you reconcile this? You can't, and you never ask the pundits you revere to do it.
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
She's got the folks behind her that will ignore most of her mistakes and focus any, however slight, mistake the other side makes.
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I look at the big picture. I will ignore mistakes of little significance - as long as she is on the right side of the major issues.
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Really it's the same people that stood by Bush regardless of how poorly he preformed.
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After 9/11, it was one issue - national security. I supported the war in Iraq and the way he executed the war. When he ran for re-election, he said he would "stay the course" - that is what I wanted. Issues like Gitmo, wiretaps, the Plame matter were of little significance to me. I did not care that he was not a great speech maker. You suggest that trivial matters is how you would measure a leader - I find that problematic.
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If you believe she did this because she has some special talent then maybe you believe William Hung became a household name because he sang "She bang" so well.
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Who is William Hung?