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Old 01-12-2011, 09:37 AM   #187 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth View Post
I realize that lots of people who are anti gun or indifferent to guns don't know the laws as well as others do, but if you want real answers to your questions, it's usually better to ask them in more polite ways.

1) It's NOT so easy to buy a Glock, or any other handgun from a gun shop, pawn shop, or any other shop licensed to sell guns. The form to buy a gun requires alot of information AND if it isn't filled out EXACTLY the way the ATF likes it, they can, and usually do, revoke the dealers license. On top of that, every form that is filled out gets called in to the ATF so that the agency can run the background check. If it passes, the gun can be sold. If a gun is sold to an individual that maybe shouldn't have one, you have only your federal government to blame for it.

2) Glocks are a very common handgun used by lots of police departments across the country. Being that popular, it should be easy to discern why there are alot out there.

3) States are not required to do background checks when selling handguns. Some do on their own, but they are not required to. It is, however, FEDERAL law that requires background checks on every single handgun that is sold by a federally licensed firearm dealer.

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why would you find this odd? even in states that are notoriously pro gun rights, few people actually know the laws and know that they have the right to carry. It's been hammered in to the people for so long, they think that simply carrying a gun without a permit is illegal.

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those comments are MOST LIKELY the result of his not liking the new law removing the need for a license to carry concealed. Alot of sheriffs are not happy with the new law.

I was licensed for years and filed out a lot of forms incorrectly. Not once did anyone even threaten to pull my license. Not even a call or letter to that effect.

I think a lot of people are well educated, Esp. in Az, as to what the laws are. There was, or it was reported anyway, a person there with a handgun on his person. When questioned he said he didn't fire because the man was out of ammo. The shooter still had ammo when taken in. Maybe this person arrived on scene after others subdued him. Maybe he froze. Maybe there was no clear shot. No idea.

I find the Sheriffs comments odd but then a lot of LE would like a lot tougher gun control laws. I think the Uzi under every crib might have been a statement made without much thought and after having a friend shot and nearly killed.


I don't get the problem people have with the Glock. It's a fine hand gun and I've owned several. My favorite for whatever reason was always a Model 22 .40cal. Felt good in my hand was pretty accurate for a semi-auto. I like them.

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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
dame sarah speaks and she does it with the epic stupidity that is her hallmark.

the problem, you see, is not the violent rhetoric of the far right. o no: the problem is the criticism of the violent rhetoric of the far right. which is a form of blood libel, she goes so far as to say. so to criticize the violent rhetoric of the american neo-fascist movement is to indulge something like unto anti-semitism.

or maybe she just doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about.

Palin Calls Criticism 'Blood Libel' - NYTimes.com

amazing stuff.
You couldn't have expected her to say anything else, could you?
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