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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
I'm sure the average tea party member would tell you it's a real grassroots movement too. And I bet most people buying up the guns are in fact probably saying they're solely doing so to protect themselves and their families. In fact almost all of your arguments sound like "yeah, but we're right." Umm, ok, if you say so.
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I can demonstrate with factual, verifiable evidence that the Tea Party is astroturf. It's not an opinion, of which there's an opposing but equally valid opinion. It's objectively verifiable. In other words, yeah, I am right, but more than that I can prove it with the facts. The G8 protests are demonstrably not connected to corporate interests or mainstream political organizations. You'd never catch the DCCC, for example, even mentioning the protests, unless it was to condemn them. The NRCC chair is a vocal member of the Tea Party.
In other words, you can't compare the Tea Party and G8 protests.
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
As for calling on people to prove it doesn't have a correlation, why not wait until we have all the facts. People were flat out calling the right responsible for the killing of the census worker too. Didn't quite turn out that way.
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I was following the available evidence in that case and it turned out to be fabricated (Occam's razor hardly would lead someone to conclude this man with no history of mental illness would write FED on his own chest). I'd rather be wrong for the right reasons than right for the wrong reasons, wouldn't you?
And, for the umpteenth time, I'm not saying this shooting is directly connected to the calls for violence on the right. I'm saying that in the aftermath of an attempted assassination, maybe it's time to tone down calls to violence because that's an appropriate thing to do.