Originally Posted by Willravel

There's evidence in that he's anti-government. There are, in the United States right now, only a handful of (tiny) liberal anti-government groups and not a single one of them is pro gun rights. Not one. There hasn't been anti-government violence from the left in over 40 years. Not one instance.

The entire Republican party, on the other hand, has been anti-government for decades and is tightly associated with armament and armed resistance. I can't count on all my fingers and toes the instances of anti-government violence which can fairly connected with the right in the past 10 years let alone in the past 20+. You're not allowed to simply ignore this because it hurts your case. You have to factor it in or face being branded dishonest.



As an added note, journalist Tim Heffernan has spoken to surveyors in the past 24 hours and has managed to find crosshairs in surveying. The symbol commonly represents an aven, or vertical shaft. I've only done amateur landscaping drafting, myself, but based on what information I can find this does seem to be the case. I'd like a conservative apologist around here to explain in a plausible way why these marks on Palin's map represent avians and not crosshairs. I'll be waiting with bated breath.

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Confusing anti-globalization with anti-government goes beyond the pale of plausible ignorance, Cynth. You're a bright fellow, you know better.

Regarding the question of left violence... where were the guns? Where were the preparations for active and offensive (as opposed to defensive) violence? There are literally hundreds of independent videos of the police instigating... where are the videos of the protesters, some of which liberal, centrist and libertarian, instigating? Your attempted comparison falls very much flat.