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Originally Posted by Makhnov
When you say "random" it is almost as if you mean to say anything and everything is possible with evolution. To answer this you will need to be more specific about what you mean by the word "random", when you say evolution is random. There may be upper bounds on it, that even Dawkins is unaware of. It seems to be that a single upper bound on evolution No matter how small, insignificant it may seem to us -- that will cause the process to no longer be random (in any sense of the word random).
An example of what an "upper bound" means would be, for example, something to do with the range of temperatures in which water is liquid, for instance. This could later come to have unforseen effects on the distances planets can be from stars and then put limits on the energy available to ecosystems, and so on. Then we get small bounds on "what is possible". In turn, arguments for "randomness" look weaker.
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I can't speak for GreyWolf, but I think you're confusing terms here. "Upper bound" is a term that has implications in formal statistical theory. The number of possible outcomes in all real random processes are bounded. That doesn't make them less random. The classic example is the flip of a coin.
Evolution is essentially random, in that it can accurately modeled as a random process. Whether anything is actually random is a philosophical question wholly separate from the success of random models at accurately describing reality.